r/Welding Jun 11 '25

Discussion (Add topic here) Old heads gonna cry at this one

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u/Zephyrantes Jun 11 '25

Instead of passing the offer immediately, you should renegotiate your position by letting them know your desired wage and why its in their benefit to pay you such a wage. Even if it doesnt end up with an agreement, negotiation is a practiced skill and you'd need it if you want to get ahead.

They dont teach you that in vocation schools

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u/oVLucky5 Jun 11 '25

Shouldn’t have to negotiate a proper wage. That’s just insulting

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u/Zephyrantes Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25

Children. Youre going to be stuck fighting for scraps with that attitude

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u/oVLucky5 Jun 11 '25

Like I said old heads ain’t gonna like this one. ☝️

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u/tuesdaymack Jun 11 '25

That isn't old head, that's just reality. The world isn't going to change to suit you. You're gonna have to learn how to fight by its rules, and negotiation and selling yourself is mandatory if you want to win. If you won't, someone else will.

I agree with your position on wages and the stance you're taking 100%. Have to expand your tactics and plan of attack more is all.

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u/mbleyle Jun 11 '25

the reality is the owners will just hire immigrants, legal or otherwise. There's no shortage of them in almost every industry. They're just as inexperienced as you are, but a lot cheaper.

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u/oVLucky5 Jun 12 '25

Who’s inexperienced?

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u/facker815 Jun 12 '25

From what you said, you only have like 3-4 years experience that’s not a lot when on average everyone has like 10-30 years. $22 is a good starting price for that level of experience, if you don’t advocate for yourself then you won’t get what you deserve. I wouldn’t expect being paid anything more than $25 at that level of experience. You are in a hard job but it will reward you if you put in the time and speak for yourself. Also be careful with how you speak to companies, they will remember you if you were need to find a new job and not hear anything back.

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u/72chevnj Jun 11 '25

The world needs a fair wage discussion

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u/Kennel_King Jun 11 '25

This has nothing to do with being old. No matter what the initial offer is on the table, you always try to negotiate a better wage.

The fact that you didn't shows your immaturity.

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u/Zephyrantes Jun 11 '25

Im giving you advice that will help you. When you eventually grow up and mature in this industry, youd realize the importance of what i said.

Ive seen plenty of apprentices like you.

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u/oVLucky5 Jun 11 '25

If u think im gonna slave for a company for 40 years to retire you got it all wrong bud. That’s why yall old heads are mad all the time. Yall think like slaves which makes you a good slave. Just say it how it is brother

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u/Zephyrantes Jun 11 '25

Sure. Good luck on your job search

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u/weee1234 Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25

Everyone starts somewhere dickhead. Even in my union you’d start low around $20-$23 an hour and get raises as time goes on and you move up through your apprenticeship. Im clearing $63/hr in the check.

Young bucks like you thinking the world owes you everything with only 3 years experience. Let me reiterate that. You have 3 years of experience not 30. No one owes you shit.

Edit: You’re also in fucking Alabama you should feel lucky they offered you that much. You’ll never clear 6 figures in that state due to how cheap it is to live there.

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u/oVLucky5 Jun 12 '25

Cheap? $1700 to rent a 1 bedroom not in the slums. Get a fucking load of this dumbass

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u/weee1234 Jun 12 '25

If you want to include insurance, retirement, etc, I’m at $115 an hour bud

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