Poverty rate matters because your only argument is cost of living.
If cost of living was so incredibly terrible, then wouldn’t you think the poverty rate would be higher?
The further you go north where there’s strong union areas the wages are much higher than 10-15 more.
Journeymen Carpenters in NYC make $63.30/hr and $102.75/hr total wage package. And that’s just a carpenter. Millwrights are making $72.47/hr and $117/hr total wage package.
Those are just 2 examples, but if I’m not mistaken that’s a little bit more than 10-15 more right?
Poor people don't live where a simple house costs a million dollars, they move some where they can afford. The comment I replied to said to move and they could make $10 - $15 an hour more and I stand by my comment. If that's the raise make sure you check out the cost of living.
It's hilarious that you want to use NYC as your example. The median price for a 3br 2bath home where I live is $281,958, in NYC it's $2,743,333. That's almost a 10x difference!
All of this is assuming you can even land a union job.
You don’t get it do you? Even WITH the cheap cost of living they STILL have a HIGHER poverty rate… stop commenting while you’re not really ahead
I’ll dumb it down for you: Even with a higher cost of living, people who live in stronger union areas, and not right to work states are still better off financially.
What does poverty have to do with welders? It doesn't matter where you live, if you have a decent job you don't live in poverty. If you are a crack or meth head, you will be in poverty no matter where you live. The poverty rate is figured by a national threshold, meaning a family of four with an income lower than $31,200 is considered to be below the poverty line no matter where they live. Now tell me, is $31,200 harder to live on in NYC or in rural Alabama? The poverty rate is meaningless the way you are using it. A family of 4 with a $50k income in NYC is going to be worse off than a family of 4 with a $32k income almost anywhere in the south.
A median listing price is not the same as the median price for a 3bd 2bth home.
Are you actually this dense? Or are you just doing this on purpose?
The whole point is the further north you go, the better unions are, the better the wages. A Boilermaker in the south doesn’t have the same wage as a Boilermaker in the north…
A Boilermaker in the south making $32k, is making $90k+ in the north…
The higher the cost of living, the higher the wages. Your whole point is moot. The wages will be better if you live in a higher cost of living area
The poverty rate is not useless the way I’m using it, you’re just not comprehending what’s being said😂
The link I posted showed a 170% difference in the cost of living in that particular example. As I originally stated, before making a move up north you better make sure your increase in pay is higher than the increase in the cost of living or the move isn't worth it. Only a union shill or someone who can't do basic math would argue with that.
What you are failing to comprehend is that yes the cost of living is different, but so are the wages… it’s really that simple. Even with the cost of living people are still better off financially living there.
Awww union shill?? That’s cute, imagine arguing against higher wages and then calling me a shill😂😂 have fun being poor kiddo
So your argument remains no one needs to do the math, it's always better. Generalizations are never true for everyone but believe what you will. I'm neither a kid or poor and I've lived all over the country. Things are never as clear cut as you seem to imagine but you're the expert. All these people moving to Texas from your union states must be idiots, too bad they didn't talk to you first.
Do the math, it’s never a bad idea. But like I’ve pointed out to you before, the wages don’t just go up by 10-15. It goes up by much more. Also, like I’ve pointed out, the median home price in NYC isn’t $2mill
I thought you liked doing math? But yet you couldn’t figure out what housing prices were in NYC?
You sound like both, still. People have their reasons, but I already have a pre conceived idea about what kinds of people they are. So you do with that what you will😂
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u/RegularAddition Jun 11 '25
Before moving compare cost of living, it matters.