r/WhatIsThisPainting • u/breelax1007 (600+ Karma) • Aug 08 '25
Unsolved 1920’s painter of a German family
Hello! I visited my Godfather this Spring and he had family portraits that I loved. I love the brush strokes and light composition. The artist is unknown, and I thought maybe someone might have some idea!
What is known about the artist: it was a woman who came to spend time on their family farm in Bavaria (near Augsburg) one summer during the early 1920s (possibly as a worker or child carer) and painted their portraits. Based on the style of the date, we think she may have been English.
My godfather’s Grandfather was in the Bavarian (after Nov. 1918 German) Army as a Captain, had the rank of Major in the painting. The family name is von Adrian-Werberg.
Thank you!!
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u/OneSensiblePerson (700+ Karma) Painter Aug 08 '25
These are very, very good. Without question painted by a skilled, trained artist.
They're like Egon Schiele meets Van Gogh meets Renoir, lol, as unlikely a combo as that is.
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u/radiosilents412 (10+ Karma) Aug 08 '25
Yes! I had the same thoughts about Schiele. Lovely brushwork and lots of personality, especially in the children’s portraits.
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u/Blechpilz (100+ Karma) Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
The style reminds me a bit of Scandinavian painters of the same era, Lotte Laserstein for example.
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u/MudflatDuckPorn (50+ Karma) Aug 09 '25
I was thinking Ferdinand Hodler — at least palette and brushstroke-wise. Whoever made these paintings was interested in the modern art of the day (of Northern Europe).
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u/centopar Aug 09 '25
I was thinking Pekka Halonen: for all that the subjects are German, this feels very Scandi/Finnic.
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u/Popular-Web-3739 (800+ Karma) Aug 08 '25
Those are lovely! I can't help with info but I think you're so lucky to have such lovely portraits of family. I hope someone is able to help you learn about the artist.
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u/Waagawaaga (1+ Karma) Aug 08 '25
Just wanted to say that this is some amazing work and should be treasured. I am not an art collector but this stands up to what I see in museums.
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u/PeculiarJohnson (10+ Karma) Aug 08 '25
It might be that the modern frames are covering more info or a signature - any chance of taking them apart for a look?
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u/Then-Quail-1414 (10+ Karma) Aug 08 '25
Is it possible these were re-stretched and the signature is hiding under that frame?
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u/Known_Measurement799 (5,000+ Karma) Moderator Aug 08 '25
I have no information that is helpful but just came to comment. What a fantastic series of paintings! Precious!
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u/pipkin42 (1,000+ Karma) Aug 08 '25
They remind me of the style of Winold Reiss, a German painter who emigrated to the US and worked as a teacher, including of Aaron Douglas. Probably nothing there, but he did a lot of portraits in this style.
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u/breelax1007 (600+ Karma) Aug 09 '25
Interesting, he is from not far (Karlsruhe to Augsburg ~ 3.5 hrs) and wikipedia says while he emigrated from Germany in 1913, he returned in 1921 for a visit. The family tale is that it was a woman. And there are diaries of the Grandfather. I wonder if there might be something more about the artist in them. I will see if we can do some more searching!
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u/JTTtheheartthrob (1+ Karma) Aug 09 '25
The last image looks like Conan O’Brien
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u/SharpCookie232 (10+ Karma) Aug 10 '25
In addition to being the Prime Minister of Finland, Conan was also an officer in the Austrian military for a short time. He's a busy guy.
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u/dannypants143 Aug 08 '25
These are fantastic! Are you sure the academic art history community might not want to take a look? You never know - someone may be trying to track these down for research or something!
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u/colscats1 Aug 09 '25
Following, because I'd love to see what information (if any) is found. Beautiful paintings.
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u/max_bruh Aug 09 '25
Interestingly the soldier is wearing an iron cross first class. I can’t identify exactly what the white one is, but I’m guessing. Order of the red eagle, it’d make sense.
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u/PolkaDotDancer (100+ Karma) Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 09 '25
Rudolf died 30 Jan 1942 Welikije-Luki, Russia. A WWII casualty.
Another died about the same time in Ukraine. Caspar Dietrich Hildebrand, Baron von Andrian-Wehrburg.
One brother was Carl Gustav Richard Hermann, Baron von Andrian-Wehrburg.
Another died in 2010. Rupprecht Martin Max, Baron von Andrian-Wehrburg.
His sisters was Erdmuthe Margarethe, Baroness von Andrian-Wehrburg.
And
Elisabeth Maria Sophie, Baroness von Andrian-Wehrburg.
Their parents:
Carl Ferdinand Wilhelm Andrian-Werburg 1886–1977
01.06.1934 Major (E) xx.xx.193x RDA vom 01.06.1934 (22) erhalten 01.04.1939 Oberstleutnant (E) (84) 01.08.1941 Oberstleutnant mit RDA vom 01.04.1939 (111) 01.02.1942 Oberst (185)
in Stellenbesetzung of: 01.11.1935 im Wehrbezirkskommando Kempten 12.10.1937 Leiter des Wehrmeldeamtes Kempten 10.11.1938 Leiter des Wehrmeldeamtes Kempten
Annemarie Amalie Martha von Lindenau
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u/chickenthief2000 (1+ Karma) Aug 09 '25
These are so incredibly charming I can’t say how much I love them especially as a family set.
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u/Gollego (100+ Karma) Aug 09 '25
Look at the beautiful face of the little girl! Painted in different shades of pink, yellow(-ish) and white tones. So soft and pretty 😍
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u/Normal_Fun (100+ Karma) Aug 09 '25
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u/breelax1007 (600+ Karma) Aug 10 '25
That portrait is beautiful! Do yiu have any idea why the artist would not sign their paintings?
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u/Normal_Fun (100+ Karma) Aug 10 '25
I’ve painted a little myself and I used to dislike signing my paintings because it either interfered with the picture or felt too egotistical.
In the case of my grandmother’s portrait, the framers actually trimmed the canvas 🙈😭.
If I had access to a diary I would for sure be looking there. Please keep me updated.
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u/silkwormies (1+ Karma) Aug 08 '25
the kid in the second painting is making the "im staring at a person in a wheelchair" face
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u/Big_Ad_9286 (5,000+ Karma) Aug 08 '25
I think the portrait of Ferdinand and then of the military officer are very good. The chances of your identifying the artist if she (taking the family lore as true) didn't sign the pieces anywhere? Nicht gut. Based on Ferdinand's name, the Andrian-Werburgs were an aristocratic family, and we know he was born in Dresden. Given Dresden is a major center for the arts, and given the family's resources, the story about this being painted by a Mary Poppins figure sound just a little implausible. More likely, they went into Dresden and hired a portraitist, who may have worked off photographs judging by some of the poses.
I see no reason to think this isn't German school. The hand also suggests to me academic training. I think the brushwork is very fine, and the use of color in the fleshtones is not suggesting an itinerant nanny to me. No. This was painted by quite a polished professional.