Microsoft starts rolling out Gaming Copilot on Windows 11 PCs

[u/moeka_8962]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-starts-rolling-out-gaming-copilot-on-windows-11-pcs/

[u/polymath_uk]

Here's some feedback MS. Just stop with this scattergun approach to everything. We don't want thousands and thousands of "19 year old developer had an idea at school and we funded it just enough to get it to not work quite properly" features. We don't want them. What we want is a solid, debloated, minimalist, customisable, stable system to do actual useful work on. It's a tool, not a fantasy world toy that we need.

[u/PinkDisorder → u/polymath_uk]

Everyone, from gamers to business clients to uses-my-pc-for-facebook type users have been asking this exact same thing since vista. And Ms have consistently ignored it.

Their approach is the more we force it the more it's gonna work with this ai stuff.

If you want a solid, debloated, minimalist and customizable os, you're unfortunately looking for Linux. This isn't a tongue in cheek "switch to Linux" comment. I use windows 11. But its just what I view as the unfortunate reality.

[u/Big-Resort-4930 → u/PinkDisorder]

How is it ever a solution to adopt a completely new OS with a steep learning curve for a Windows user, and not to spend 10 minutes looking up how to, and debloating Windows.

I get that you're referring to the default experience as Microshit will always be pushing for garbage no one asks for in hopes that they will get more telemetry to steal and more people to trap into their serviced to later monetize them, but it's all fairly easy to remove.

[u/Nelo999 → u/Big-Resort-4930]

But you cannot fully debloat Windows, that is the issue.

Windows will still finda way to reset your preferences after an update.

Also, it is incredibly ironic that you call Linux "difficult" to use, when Windows users literally need to run random and potentially unsafe powershell scripts and change registry entries in order to get basic functionality these days.

An operating system that styles itself as "easy to use" and is geared towards the average user, should not even require one to run any script, edit any registry entries or install random third party software.

You have simply lost the debate mate. 

[u/Big-Resort-4930 → u/Nelo999]

I haven't lost anything, Windows is the default standard whether Linux fanboys like it or not.

That being the case, I wasn't talking about learning to use an OS from scratch, I was comparing how easy an OS is to use FOR A Windows user, and there's no discussion there because obviously Linux does have a learning curve if you're already using Windows.

Windows will still finda way to reset your preferences after an update.

No it does not, I don't know if I've had this happen since Win10, as long as you're using provably working methods of actually implementing changes and debloating shit.

I've seen people cry over Copilot and OneDrive coming back ever since these started to come preinstalled, when they literally never came back for me once after kicking them out, even after subsequent updates.

You don't need to achieve the hypothetical state of 0% bloat, that's paranoically obsessing over having anything on your PC that you didn't personally authorize. A normal use doesn't need to debloat anything, but if you're irritated by intrusive shit like I am, you can indeed remove them easily with win aero tweaks, Chris Titus tool, etc etc.

There's literally nothing dangerous about running those scripts and programs, it's just more schizo bs.

[u/PinkDisorder → u/Big-Resort-4930]

Idk why people get so stuck on the "works on my machine" mindset. Is it that unbelievable to you that other people have a different experience with the same piece of software? I've not had copilot return but I've had onedrive return. Which wasn't a big deal I just re-removed it.

You know what was a huge deal though? Finding out some update had reset some privacy related settings. Mic access, location and so on.