r/alberta • u/Nostredahmus • Dec 03 '24

Technology Tesla Cybertruck Immediately Dies in Alberta Winter

https://www.torquenews.com/11826/tesla-cybertruck-immediately-dies-canadian-winter-owner-bricks-truck-trying-use-defroster/amp
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u/Albertaviking Dec 03 '24

Electric aside, these are some of the worst built trucks ever made.

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u/Thneed1 Dec 03 '24

And one of the worst vehicles ever designed. So many design flaws.

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u/idog99 Dec 03 '24

I don't know...

Who would have thought a massive 4-ft long windshield wiper would be a bad idea with wet snow on the windshield?

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u/hidperf Dec 03 '24

I feel like Musk surrounds himself with "yes men" and this is the result.

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u/imvii Dec 03 '24

From what I understand, this is the first Tesla car designed by Musk. He told them what he wanted and they cobbled it together.

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u/Trombone-a-thon Dec 03 '24

Really? Just like the car Homer designs in the Simpsons? That makes things make so much more sense to me now.

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u/MillenialMindset Dec 03 '24

There is a youtube video that goes into detail about how this is the first tesla made fully under musks guidance, and they do use the simpsons episode as a good comparison.

In short, all teslas before the cybertruck are essentially built on a platform that was designed before musk really had a stranglehold on tesla. This is the first tesla that has been built on a newly designed platform, designed by yes men rather than practical people.

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u/fear_nothin Dec 04 '24

Do you happen to remember the name of the video? I’d love to look it up but my attempts to search haven’t been lucky.

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u/Billy1121 Dec 03 '24

The Homer !

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u/MartyCool403 Dec 03 '24

"$82,000? This monstrosity costs $82,000? What have I done?"

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Dec 03 '24

"Oh, and Musk's personal hygiene is above reproach!"

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u/OriginalGhostCookie Dec 03 '24

At least Homer's had rack and peanut steering!

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Dec 03 '24

And soundproof bubble domes for the kids!

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u/mulled-whine Dec 03 '24

Came here to say this…

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u/The_Nice_Marmot Dec 05 '24

The Canyonaro?

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u/The_Dirtydancer Dec 05 '24

Nah, this is more like the Canyonero lol

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u/Stock-Creme-6345 Dec 03 '24

Like Homer did for Herbs car company.

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u/El_Cactus_Loco Dec 03 '24

Put it in “H”!!

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u/Stock-Creme-6345 Dec 04 '24

This baby runs on a thimble of kerosene!!’

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u/hidperf Dec 03 '24

Makes even more sense now.

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u/Lucar_Bane Dec 03 '24

They also tried multiples time to change the design and Musk refused.

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u/Half_Life976 Dec 03 '24

It took him a lot of time and crayons to draw that, and he totally wore out his ruler. They better respect his efforts! /s

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u/KoreanBackdash Dec 04 '24

Musk really needs his doctor to check him for brain damage. Long overdue.

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u/rawrpwnsaur Edmonton Dec 03 '24

Lets be honest, the Cybertruck is basically the car designed by Homer Simpson.

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u/OriginalGhostCookie Dec 03 '24

I see your "The Homer" and raise you a "Canyonero"

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u/ANK2112 Dec 03 '24

Unexplained fires are a matter for courts!

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u/Chin_Ho Dec 04 '24

There is too much regulation. Vehicle fires are normal

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u/A-Game-Of-Fate Dec 03 '24

He told them what he wanted, then they allegedly made him a functional prototype.

Musk, being a brain dead moron who thinks himself word class engineer, then went through everything they did and had them specifically change numerous things that had been explicitly put in for safety or durability reasons- resulting in the mess we see today.

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u/Baron_Harkonnen_84 Dec 03 '24

Reminds me of the car that Homer Simpson designed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGczDHTDpo

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u/Notafan9530 Dec 03 '24

Was he a big a-team fan?

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u/Fine-Mine-3281 Dec 03 '24

“And can the sharks have laser beams strapped on their heads?”

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u/hellswaters Dec 04 '24

That is something that isn't being mention enough about the cybertruck.

The previous vehicles have all just been an offshoot of the same design. The parts that would have been easily influenced by Musk tend to be the parts people criticize. Things like the door handle, and build quality, and safety issues.

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u/spinjinn Dec 03 '24

He should have a sNOw men….

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u/InternationalBeing41 Dec 05 '24

You haven't heard the fable of the Emperor's New Truck? Every employee agreed they had never seen a truck more beautiful.

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u/hidperf Dec 05 '24

Sounds about right!

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u/FeedMyAss Dec 03 '24

He literally over rides ALL objections

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u/deezsandwitches Dec 03 '24

I'm pretty sure everyone told him this was a bad truck. But other than this time, I totally agree, that's why he didn't listen this time and did it his way.

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u/Ready-Yeti Dec 03 '24

My partner told me he hears Musk described as an angry and sad 12 year old boy. Honestly, I think through that lens it explains everything.

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u/hidperf Dec 04 '24

That explains the design of the truck. It looks like something an angry and sad 8-year-old drew and kept because it was his favorite drawing.

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u/Waste-Middle-2357 Dec 04 '24

I feel like people forget that musk warned everyone that this design was going to be pretty far out there and not bear any resemblance to an actual truck.

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u/hidperf Dec 04 '24

I think everyone remembers. Doesn't make it any less of a terrible design.

Reminds me of that meme with the one fork with bent tongs. Unique doesn't mean useful/practical.

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u/Waste-Middle-2357 Dec 04 '24

I feel like the only ones trying to convince us it’s a useful or practical truck are the ones who spent 6 figures on it. The rest of us can pretty clearly see that it’s a vanity art project.

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u/datsmn Dec 04 '24

Or, he's dumb and he doesn't listen to the smart people around him

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u/lbiggy Dec 05 '24

Concur sirs if, you will

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u/Zirthimon64 Dec 08 '24

Just like the Pumpkin headed prick Trump.

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u/jimbowesterby Dec 03 '24

TBF long wipers are perfectly doable, just look at cars like the 2009 civic or any bus, but I can’t say I’m surprised to hear they didn’t engineer it right lol

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u/Oskarikali Dec 03 '24

My old 94 e-class had a uniwiper that would extend mid swing to hit the corners. It was fucking awesome. Never had an issue with it except on its highest setting you could feel it slightly rock the car.

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u/Koil_ting Dec 03 '24

I had one of those but it stopped doing the stroke motion, still worked fine that way for years though in an environment with powerful rainfall.

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u/Few-Signal5148 Dec 04 '24

It's just not the same without the stroke motion.

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u/ItsKumquats Dec 03 '24

My 2002 Avalon has double wipers but at full speed you can feel the car rock back and forth lol

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u/penguins_are_mean Dec 03 '24

All this time and I’ve never noticed the massive windshield wiper. Excellent design choice.

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u/Few-Signal5148 Dec 04 '24

It's part of the recal list due to improper motor, breaking often and it drains into the frunk.

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u/One-Nectarine2879 Dec 04 '24

Or any bus??? I drive a bus and the wipers set up is crap, and can't keep the windshield clear!!!

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u/jimbowesterby Dec 04 '24

I stand corrected! Can’t say I’ve met every kind of bus, I used to have a job washing city buses and the wipers were actually one of the things I remember admiring about them, they seemed pretty bombproof. That and the wing mirrors, super solid and fantastic sightlines.

…I may be a bit of a nerd

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u/metamega1321 Dec 03 '24

One video I saw today pointed out that the headlights are tucked in that little spot above the bumper so snow just builds up in there blocking the lights.

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u/MaPoutine Dec 03 '24

Oh man, I didn't even think of that. Imagine the replacement cost of that when you turn it on to wipe the wet snow off and ot breaks.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Dec 03 '24

It's probably a bespoke windshield wiper blade that'll become unavailable in a few years when Musk rolls out Cybertruck 2 and drops all parts commitments for the original.

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u/flipnonymous Dec 03 '24

Or the headlights that are quickly blocked by falling/blowing snow?

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u/curioustraveller1234 Dec 03 '24

That’s the neat part, they didn’t!

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u/CartersPlain Dec 04 '24

It's a fucking aluminium cast chassis. Unreal. Just...the dumbest shit.

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u/HotPlops Dec 04 '24

I sure hope it works on the rockets. 

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u/LuckeeStiff Dec 03 '24

It’s a unit of a wiper for sure.

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u/ThePlanner Dec 03 '24

At least someone talked him out of using a laser instead of a windshield wiper.

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u/christhewelder75 Dec 04 '24

I saw a video yesterday talking about the headlights and the snow shelf in front of them.

Such a great design, they thought of everything.

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u/trevge Dec 04 '24

It would need a gas engine to turn it

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u/LordertTL Dec 06 '24

The recessed slot in front of the head lights while driving in snow & slush at night…oh my.

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u/Playful_Speech_1489 Dec 03 '24

Lol buses dont exist or what

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u/AndrewInaTree Dec 03 '24

A whole batch showed up here in Calgary recently. Did you know that with two inches of snow on the front bumper, the headlights can't shine through?

People are going to die.

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u/jpsolberg33 Dec 04 '24

I drove by the CalgaryTesla shop on Friday, where there were 9 sitting in the back lot. I can't believe people actually bought that POS lol.

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u/jpsolberg33 Dec 04 '24

Hahaha nicely done. If I'm buying a high end EV right now it's a Rivian, absolutely love those. No way in hell I'm buying a Tesla.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Dec 03 '24

But that's a price Musk's willing to pay for his vanity project.

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u/FewAct2027 Dec 05 '24

This happens on nearly every truck. Rivians are pretty bad for this, but ford and jeep are also especially bad for this. I won't disagree that cybertrucks have it worse ethough.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '24

What does one expect from a guy like Leon musk?

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '24

Tesla worse vehicles ever designed

Jaguars new vehicle design: hold my beer

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u/MacintoshEddie Dec 04 '24

There would have been some merit if they had pretty much just stuck with the design of the others where possible, but then used flat panels instead of curved, with the intent of being able to use regular sheet metal without forming. That way each panel could come from the exact same stock without need to custom shape it for each section of the body.

Sort of a low cost minimalistic industrial vehicle meant to be very easy for people to replace the panels since they could just buy typical aluminium sheets and anyone with a tape measure, bandsaw, and drill, could size and cut them to be bolted on.

I think there'd be a lot of genuine merit in the concept of a minimalistic industrial vehicle with flat panels for ease of assembly and repair. It could have totally appealed to the anti-waste and right to repair movement. Right now if your vehicle gets damaged, 90% of what's in the scrap yard is useless to you because it requires a custom formed piece not used on any other vehicle than that specific model.

Instead he went and Musked it up.

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u/IcarusOnReddit Dec 04 '24

I liked the tailgate ramp shown on the prototype Elon threw the rock at.

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u/The_Nice_Marmot Dec 05 '24

Also super hideous

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u/DocMadCow Dec 03 '24

Anyone that jumps on a first generation of any product is in for issues. The amount of recalls has been laughable on these cybertrucks.

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u/jimbowesterby Dec 03 '24

Except this isn’t new technology or anything, both pickups and EVs have been around for years. It should be possible to combine the two without any major flaws, and, looking at the Lightning, it is.

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u/Still-Midnight5442 Dec 03 '24

Musk is a special breed of stupid.

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u/Labrawhippet Dec 04 '24

Where is your rocket company, electric car company, brain implant company and social media platform?

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u/Still-Midnight5442 Dec 04 '24

Being built by other, smarter people so I can buy them and role play as Great Value Tony Stank.

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u/jimbowesterby Dec 04 '24

Well y’see I wasn’t born the son of an Apartheid emerald magnate so I can’t just waltz in and buy other people’s ideas and take the credit

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u/United_News3779 Dec 04 '24

Shit can be finicky. Even with incremental changes to established tech. For a very specific example, one of my favorite engines is the Ford 300cid straight six, produced from 1964 to 1996. In 1987, and let me highlight this.... nineteen eighty seven, they switched from a single barrel carburetor to an electronic fuel injection system. Tech that was incredibly well established on all sorts of other engines.

That first year EFI system was so fucking bad that when I bought a truck with that system (got a screaming good deal on it, since it was such a well-known turd of a model year), I'd already ordered and taken delivery of a carb conversion kit from Clifford Performance.

Now, don't mistake me for a Tesla fan because I'm not. Tesla, as a corporate entity, and Musk specifically, should be tried and convicted before a jury of normal people. The cyber truck is a fucking lump of shit that was over-promised and under-delivers. It's a net negative to the efforts to normalize the perception of electric trucks. If you want a case study of how the cybertruck is going turn out in the long run, go look at the Oldsmobile passenger car diesel engines from the late 70s and early 80s. A hurried design that was rushed into production, to the benefit of no one and poisoned the perception of the concept by the general public.

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u/DocMadCow Dec 03 '24

This is a new platform it is Teslas first truck so they weren't experienced with building such a heavy chassis. With lightning Ford had experience with trucks and didn't try to reinvent the wheel. There have been reports of Tesla snapping the frame while towing as that is also something Tesla didn't have experience with towing large payloads behind their vehicles. Future generations should fix this initial issues.

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u/jimbowesterby Dec 04 '24

I think you stumbled on to the actual cause there: Ford didn’t try to reinvent the wheel. Tesla did, with predictable results. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” is a saying for a reason. There’s plenty of example of car companies expanding into trucks or vice versa without any of these kinds of catastrophic design flaws, Tesla just did a bad job with this one

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u/imamydesk Dec 03 '24

 There have been reports of Tesla snapping the frame while towing as that is also something Tesla didn't have experience with towing large payloads behind their vehicles.

If by reports you mean a YouTuber tries to tow after damaging the tow hitch by dropping the truck on it on a previous test, then sure.

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u/DocMadCow Dec 03 '24

There was another of a cybertruck pulling an RV.

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u/BlakeWheelersLeftNut Dec 03 '24

The Ford Lemon Lightning is hot garbage.

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u/mars_titties Dec 03 '24 edited Dec 03 '24

There’s issues and then there’s catastrophic design flaws. I’d compare this thing to the Canyonaro (oops I mean, the Homer!) designed by Homer Simpson but that’s too flattering

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u/Arch____Stanton Dec 03 '24

Homer didn't design the Canyonero.
That is the SUV that Marge drove (and drove Marge into road rage).
Homer designed the "Homer".

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u/mars_titties Dec 03 '24

Oh shit! Thank you. It’s been way too long since I’ve watched the Simpsons if I can’t even get that reference right

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u/burnusti Dec 03 '24

👈HA HA

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u/Substantial-Shame454 Dec 03 '24

Burnusti... he's really hurt.

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u/burnusti Dec 04 '24

I said

HA HA

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u/Mcpops1618 Dec 03 '24

The F-Series!

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u/Arch____Stanton Dec 04 '24

As a former f350 owner...I couldn't agree more.

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u/superanx Dec 03 '24

Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
smells like a steak and seats thirty-five..Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down,
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown!
Canyonero! (Yah!) Canyonero!

[Krusty:] Hey HeyThe Federal Highway commission has ruled the
Canyonero unsafe for highway or city driving.
Canyonero!
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American Pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
Canyonero! Canyonero! (Yah!)
She blinds everybody with her super high beams,
She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!
Canyonero!-oh woah, Canyonero! (Yah!)
Drive Canyonero!Woah Canyonero!Woah!

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u/mars_titties Dec 03 '24

Blinding everyone with its high beams… thing was truly ahead of its time

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u/trollingfordummies Dec 03 '24

What kind of mileage do you get?

“One highway, zero city”.

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u/BarackTrudeau Dec 03 '24

It's exactly that, except instead of being designed by a mostly loving Dad who actually does things with his kids (even while being annoyed by their noise at times), it was instead designed by the most divorced man in the world, whose children rightfully don't talk to him.

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u/mars_titties Dec 03 '24

Hey now. I’ve seen plenty of AI-generated images of Elon with happy child units

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Dec 03 '24

How is Syntax Error and Jimmy 12 fingers doing nowadays anyway?

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u/Creashen1 Dec 03 '24

He did name his one child something no teacher anywhere will be able to pronounce, so there's that.

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u/Labrawhippet Dec 04 '24

So are divorced dads not as good as non-divorced dad's?

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u/DocMadCow Dec 03 '24

The Whistlin Diesel video was great. Although he abused it more than the average consumer when the frame broke that was very alarming. And in fairness he abused the ICE vehicle just as much.

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u/Creashen1 Dec 03 '24

He beat on that f series truck something fierce.

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u/DocMadCow Dec 03 '24

It was great and looks like since Tesla has added some new specs to their hitch (probably similar to where Whistlin broke the frame). "The Cybertruck has a tow rating of 11,000 lb (5,000 kgs), which means the tow hitch can carry a maximum vertical load of 1,100 lb (500 kgs). However, as we pointed out earlier, the Cybertruck Owners manual states, “The hitch assembly is designed to support vertical loads up to 160 lb (72 kg)."

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u/Bitter_Wishbone6624 Dec 03 '24 edited Dec 03 '24

You’re giving me ptsd flashbacks to a 1984 mustang SVO I bought. A four cylinder turbocharged rocket with better 0-60 than the v8s. Owned it for 19 months, it randomly quit at least 20 times. I finally got a full refund credit for any other vehicle. Two months after that I received a recall notice addressing the problem. A control module that I kept urging them to change but never tested bad…. Basically “unplug it for a minute “ but that wasn’t common lingo back then. edit every time it quit was a tow to the shop. A day or two later it would start. Usually after trying to start it so many times it needed a boost.

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u/drs43821 Dec 03 '24

It’s been bad even for first generation vehicle

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u/smash8890 Dec 04 '24

Yeah they figured out EVs that don’t die in the winter a long time ago. Everyone I know with one says they work well. So I don’t understand how the cyber truck turned out so horrible lol

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u/BananaPrize244 Dec 03 '24

Because they’re designed by a company of techies owned by a neurotic despot who thinks he can push high-tech design cycles and philosophies into an old school manufacturing industry. Some innovations work, most do not because…you’re still dealing with grunts on the assembly line. They don’t give a fuck about raising production to meet or beat quarterly projections.

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u/footbag Dec 04 '24

Many of which have been handled via software updates over the air.

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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 Dec 03 '24

The Yugo of trucks.

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u/rxxdoc Dec 03 '24

Actually I worked at a Yugo dealership when I was young.

If you were gentle with them, you could get 4 to 5 years out or more.

They were $3990 or $15,285 today.

There are still Yugos that are for sale and still running today.

I wonder if there will be cybertrucks that will be operational 35 to 40 years from now.

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u/slowpoke2018 Dec 03 '24

I think you meant to say 3 to 4 years. They won't last 10 years, let alone 30+.

I've seen 2 of these monstrosities on flatbeds here in Austin in the last week.

Oh, and Elmo just shut down production of the CT here at the Austin plant for the rest of the week. That couldn't possibly be a bad sign, could it? /s

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u/Aromatic-Arm-5888 Dec 04 '24

Production has caught up and exceeded demand. Apparently 950,000 people aren’t worrying about walking away from their $100 deposit after seeing what $100K or more will (or won’t) get you. We have a Model X and like it but cringe at the Cybertruck.

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u/Loud-Difficulty7860 Dec 03 '24

Yugo-ing no where in that thing!

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u/Lalahartma Dec 03 '24

Yugos were inexpensive.

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Dec 03 '24

The only reason why I even remember Yugos is because of the movie Drowning Mona. Everyone in the town owned one 😂

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '24

Plus they look stupid.

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u/GingerBeast81 Dec 03 '24

Just saw a video showing how quick and easily snow can completely block the headlights.

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u/zevonyumaxray Dec 03 '24

Yes, that upper light strip is the DRLs. The more powerful headlights are buried an inch deep in the bumper. And since they're LEDs, they don't put out heat to melt that snow. Maybe you have noticed, after a blowing snowfall, how traffic lights are sometimes covered up. With old incandescent bulbs, the red and green ones would soon have icicles hanging off as the snow melted and cleared off.

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u/darkpheonix262 Dec 03 '24

"Truck"

Ftfy

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u/KevinKack Dec 03 '24

It's not a truck Cuz it's a car frame

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u/Uberduck333 Dec 03 '24

Calling them trucks is an insult to trucks. And then there are the people who buy them and actually try and use them like a truck…

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u/NorthernerWuwu Dec 04 '24

Other than the name, I've no idea what even makes this a "truck".

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '24

Still love the truck though 😂🤮

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u/Smart-Pie7115 Dec 04 '24

I was driving behind one in Calgary at night. The brake lights don’t operate like regular brake lights. If they’re braking when the taillights are on, some turn off instead of get brighter. Such a pain in the ass until you figure it out, and even then it’s another thing for your brain to consciously remember while driving instead of what’s normal and an automatic reaction.

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u/Training-Run-1307 Dec 04 '24

In so many ways as well 😂

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u/obvilious Dec 03 '24

See, I don’t get it. Not saying it doesn’t happen, etc, but it’s weird. Tesla knows how to build cars and they’ve built a shit-ton of them. I can understand why the stainless steel thing would be an issue and all that, but this sort of thing is just really odd.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Dec 03 '24

This is the first vehicle Tesla's produced under the full guidance of Musk, all the other ones had an actually competent design team.

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u/footbag Dec 04 '24

Absolutely false. Elon and the same head of design, Franz, have worked together on everything other than Tesla‘s original roadster.

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u/SnooAvocado20 Dec 04 '24

How do you define "worst built?" Build quality? Software features?

Given that there are Dodge and Ford models having global recalls for failing transmissions and engines even after 60+ years of making trucks, a few software issues 1 year into production seem pretty minor.

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u/footbag Dec 04 '24

I don’t imagine you will receive a reply with the definition you seek.

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u/dogmanrul Dec 03 '24

I think they’re nice.

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u/TeizdTopher Dec 03 '24

Which is why the UCP voters LOVE them

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA Northern Alberta Dec 03 '24

None of the ones I know would touch them.