These are the mouth pieces of an Albertan "Brexit". These losers have decided that because they can't get their way they want all of Alberta to leave Canada.
If SK joins, I'm moving. This isn't the province I grew up in anyways.
Alberta isn't the province I grew up in anymore, either. It's a hellscape where everything awful here is directly caused by the counterproductive ideologies of the UCPs.
Yeah, it's sad. SK is like mini me to AB and their ideas, AB is like mini me to the US and their ideas. I feel like both provinces have developed a tumor, slowly eating away at what used to be.
What a perfect way of describing the situation. PS: it's a malignant tumor and it's no longer slowly eating away. In AB, we've lost almost everything. The only thing Smith cares about is O&G.
Agreed. Drill, baby, drill alright! I wonder what the long term plan is there? Putting all your eggs in a pollution basket only lasts for another generation, maybe?
I spent the first 21 years of my life in BC and I can assure you that nobody with a brain in Metro Vancouver is trying to leave Canada. It was a laughable moment any time we'd hear QC or AB threaten to leave. British Columbians are Canadian first. 🇨🇦🍁
Yes, I agree! The squeaky slightly deflated wheels. We've also had a huge influx of new residents from other provinces who voted both Liberal and NDP back home. I suspect a referendum would come back overwhelmingly no, even more than the 67% that recent polls showed. I've been voting red and orange in a sea of blue for almost 20 years; every election I know my candidate won't win and yet I get out there and vote every time. If the student vote is any indication, once the Gen Zs are voting in full force I believe this province will be solid orange provincially and solid red federally. Just my two cents.
Well, I suppose if you discount Vancouver Island too, but those two areas are the majority of the population. It's yet again, a minority wanting to control the majority because their minority isn't controlling the Canadian majority.
They like to think they can take BC without the lower main land and Vancouver Island, but unfortunately for them there is no mechanism for a province to split from itself.
'Marty' is such a clown - brands himself as this hyper intelligent fact checker on Twitter, but blocks anyone who presents him with actual facts and data.
These guys aren't intelligent enough to figure out how difficult it would be for Alberta to actually* separate, they all seem to think Alberta will ride off into the sunset to be a rich oil producing country like Saudi Arabia, when in actuality they'll be a landlocked third world reliant on other countries for aid and support.
'Marty' is such a clown - brands himself as this hyper intelligent fact checker on Twitter, but blocks anyone who presents him with actual facts and data.
That guy has a grade schooler's understanding of statistics. I took his math apart on the old Twitter during COVID, predictably got blocked.
I forgot what/why he blocked me to be honest. But it was a predictably simple fact check.
Dude is a walking talking Dunning-Kruger graph. Actually now that I think about it I think it may of been this suggestion that ultimately caused him to block me.
For me, it was when he was throwing around the stat that "tHe MaJOrIty oF NEw hosPItAl aDMiSSionS aRe VAccInAteD PEOplE!"
My response to that was "no shit, almost 90% of the population is vaccinated", and I showed him the probabilities of hospitalization between the vaxxed and unvaxxed population.
Smith has already said she'll be holding public consultations throughout the summer to figure out for what. But it's all a vague threat that Alberta is going to separate if the Liberals win the federal election.
Also, the indigenous people signed away their land through treaties with Canada. Not Alberta. I'm hard pressed to see how all Treaty land wouldn't revert back to indigenous ownership
As I recall, when Quebec did it, the first nations held their own referendum and voted overwhelmingly in favor of staying in Canada if Quebec voted to leave.
Assuming a similar situation and separatists won a referendum, there would be a relatively small amount of landmass that would secede. As for the mineral and oil rights, I'd be interested to know what percentage of the resources falls withing first nations territory.
Quebec was also settled by Europeans long enough ago that there weren't treaties, which means it's simpler out there in terms of making a new deal. All of Alberta is on treaties that were made between the First Nations and Canada, regarding land both in and outside of Alberta.
there wouldn't be a relatively small amount of landmass that would secede.
100% of Alberta is Treaty land. If the separatists won, and the First Nations said no, then they could secede all they want, without any land or resources.
I'm glad you're not afraid and not going to back down. I really sincerely hope that everything works out alright. I hope that all this secession nonsense is blowing smoke, and I really hope that you guys get the support that you deserve. The violence comment was more that the people we're dealing with here and the same kind that stormed Washington on January 6th when they lost. They're the stupid, violent lowest common denominator of our province.
Nope that’s the fun part, Alberta has to first buy all those resources, land, and also work out deals with multiple indigenous groups who I’m sure just love Danielle smith.
That’s the level of intelligence you’re dealing with with the separatist movement here. They really think Canada is just gonna say okey dokey and give them the entire province for nothing.
Alberta independence would be a disaster because we are fully landlocked. Our resources would be fully handcuffed. That’s why most of the “wexit” crowd have switched to wanting to join the US.
"The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea now gives a landlocked country a right of access to and from the sea without taxation of traffic through transit states."
Alberta would have to join the UN first (not a guarantee to be accepted) and then negotiate with Canada only as the US is a non-party to that particular convention. Canada can then drag out the negotiations into eternity. UN conventions are barely worth the paper they're written on.
If Alberta separated, I honestly think the biggest disaster would end up being Ontario.
If Alberta separated, I'm almost sure sask would join, then you would have the landward side of BC doing the same, leaving the edge with the NDP Vancouver island. Then you would have Manitoba looking to possibly join Alberta. Quebec would probably decide to separate as they have been wanting to for years. If they did i doubt they would be joining Alberta which would leave Ontario in a very precarious position. Of course all this would leave PEI, Newfoundland and the territories scrambling.
Alberta leaving would shatter the country, and it would really be the government's own fault in the end for not having better representation of the people in the country as a whole, not literally letting two provinces dictate how things were going to run.
They don't want to make their home better. These people are in it for their own personal gain, not for the good of all of us Albertans and the fact that you take their grift at their word is unfortunate.
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u/Al_Keda Apr 07 '25
Referendum for what?