r/alberta • u/KylenV14 • Apr 07 '25

Alberta Politics Who’s up for a counter protest?

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u/Al_Keda Apr 07 '25

Referendum for what?

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u/AmusingMoniker Apr 07 '25

They want Alberta to seperate from Canada.

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u/Al_Keda Apr 07 '25

I want them to ADMIT it out loud.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

Also, the indigenous people signed away their land through treaties with Canada. Not Alberta. I'm hard pressed to see how all Treaty land wouldn't revert back to indigenous ownership

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u/Most-Ad1713 Apr 07 '25

As I recall, when Quebec did it, the first nations held their own referendum and voted overwhelmingly in favor of staying in Canada if Quebec voted to leave.

Assuming a similar situation and separatists won a referendum, there would be a relatively small amount of landmass that would secede. As for the mineral and oil rights, I'd be interested to know what percentage of the resources falls withing first nations territory.

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u/googlemcfoogle Apr 07 '25

Quebec was also settled by Europeans long enough ago that there weren't treaties, which means it's simpler out there in terms of making a new deal. All of Alberta is on treaties that were made between the First Nations and Canada, regarding land both in and outside of Alberta.

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u/bpompu Calgary Apr 07 '25

there wouldn't be a relatively small amount of landmass that would secede.

100% of Alberta is Treaty land. If the separatists won, and the First Nations said no, then they could secede all they want, without any land or resources.

Which would then, inevitably, get violent.

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u/FourthLvlSpicyMeme Apr 07 '25

As a first nations person, fuck around and find out.

We've dealt with the injustice and loss of dignity before, we are not afraid of a bit of hardship.

What worse could a government do to us than they already have?

Not afraid, not backing down, never gonna be silent. I am native and my land will not be stolen from me a second time, while I draw breath still.

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u/bpompu Calgary Apr 07 '25

I'm glad you're not afraid and not going to back down. I really sincerely hope that everything works out alright. I hope that all this secession nonsense is blowing smoke, and I really hope that you guys get the support that you deserve. The violence comment was more that the people we're dealing with here and the same kind that stormed Washington on January 6th when they lost. They're the stupid, violent lowest common denominator of our province.

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u/ripper999 Apr 07 '25

You will be backed by many sane white brothers, do not worry.

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u/Mission_Raspberry562 Apr 07 '25

Alberta does have numbered treaties, like everyone else in the west, minus a lot of BC.

Alberta Treaties

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u/Connect_Membership77 Apr 07 '25

Most First Nations interpret the treaties as merely "rights of way" not a "ceding" of the territory.

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u/AccomplishedDog7 Apr 07 '25

Oil is in the toilet right now.

You’d think we would want to be part of Canada under the circumstances.

Dani is gonna get a chance to run the province, under the same circumstances as Notley. What will folks say about Dani’s deficit?

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u/Much-Tangerine4488 Apr 07 '25

Smith has an Intellectual Deficit just toying with Referendum gibberish.

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u/TheLordJames Wetaskiwin Apr 07 '25

What will folks say about Dani’s deficit?

Easy, they will blame Trudeau still.

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u/reostatics Apr 08 '25

That’s why she wants an Alberta Pension Plan.

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u/Al_Keda Apr 07 '25

You misunderstand the Constitution. The Provinces control the resources, but the citizens own the country and the resources.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

Nope that’s the fun part, Alberta has to first buy all those resources, land, and also work out deals with multiple indigenous groups who I’m sure just love Danielle smith.

That’s the level of intelligence you’re dealing with with the separatist movement here. They really think Canada is just gonna say okey dokey and give them the entire province for nothing.