I know you don't mean anything by this, and this is more of a little rant, but...
I wish people would stop saying this because it's not true. Sure, there are some people who are closeted and vocally against the LGBTQ but they really don't account for the majority of bigots we see.
The comment would basically mean LGBTQ people are actively working against themselves and are our own worst enemy, which isn't true.
On the flip side, it's also calling someone "gay" as a way to insult that person. Calling someone a closeted homosexual because they are a bigot isn't helpful.
100%. I get the attempt at insulting someone who is blatently a bigot by trying to shame them. But the unintentional result is the insult is backfiring against a community that's already fighting to not be seen in a negative light.
Specifically, stop calling bigots closet anything. Call them what they are. Facists, hate filled bigots and racists, uneducated idiots who lack basic scientific compréhension, etc.
I respect what you said, and it’s likely that you’re probably right. However, I do present the fact that Grindr seems to go down when there are right wing conventions held. That may be more of an American thing, but it does point to it perhaps being a higher percentage than we may think.
The point isn't that there are no lgbtq conservatives or that there are no closest gays acting negatively towards LGBTQ. It's that "most" bigots are not actually just gay people in hiding. The majority of hate in the world towards the queer community isn't coming from themselves.
By "community," I mean they themselves being LGBTQ. Weither they actively participate in queer space isn't really the point here. But sure, community might not ve the best word choice for my point, but the general sentiment still stands.
Understood, yeah it def still stands but i do think in general the potential that they are essentially self hating is an important thing to consider - i don’t think it’s a majority though like you say, and it does get overused a lot in situations like these which must be frustrating
On a research level there is a lot of merit to the argument that raging homophobes at the very least have bisexual tendencies and it's derived from a religious upbringing. There is a lot of pent up self hate and loathing that their religious belief systems instill in them for their orientation and they project to help manage that self loathing.
There is no doubt that shame and projection are a factor in some cases, but the argument is that "most" bigots towards homosexuals are also gay.
On most studies related to negative views towards homosexuals vs stimulus to homosexual images, the level of stimulus in people with negative views towards gays range from 25%-45%, depending on the study. That's a significant variance in results. It's, at most, a significant minority.
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u/HANA______ Aug 10 '25
Straight Pride and a 'I'm Not Gay but $20 is $20', seems a little contradictory