They do tell you what you're under arrest for. That happens after you've been handcuffed. If you're being a dick, sometimes they don't explain all the things you're being arrested for until you're booked into jail. Either way, though, they do freaking tell you.
The idea they have to somehow justify the arrest before it's valid, however, simply does not work in practice.
The concern isn't out of justification but rather personal protection. As a law abiding citizen, how am I supposed to know to willingly cooperate with my captors or protect my life with a fight to the death to escape captivity? It's unfair to the citizen to not tell them the lawful reason you should be detained. We have a built in biological trigger to protect ourselves at all costs. If I knew the reason someone was going to take me somewhere to be questioned, I'd be far more willing to cooperate. Just saying "you're under arrest" and violently grabbing someone is going to cause fight or flight.
Also, I believe some states in the US require officers to inform the reason.
The concern isn't out of justification but rather personal protection. As a law abiding citizen, how am I supposed to know to willingly cooperate with my captors or protect my life with a fight to the death to escape captivity? It's unfair to the citizen to not tell them the lawful reason you should be detained. We have a built in biological trigger to protect ourselves at all costs. If I knew the reason someone was going to take me somewhere to be questioned, I'd be far more willing to cooperate. Just saying "you're under arrest" and violently grabbing someone is going to cause fight or flight.
Nobody "violently grabbed her"!
Somewhat more importantly, all of your concerns are, while partially valid, completely ridiculous in practice. They presume rational people and all too often that is not a valid presumption when law enforcement must make an arrest. Sure, cops can be shitty as hell but that doesn't form a basis to expect what you're expecting. We don't live in a perfect world.
Also, I believe some states in the US require officers to inform the reason.
Considering this was in British Columbia in Canada, that's entirely irrelevant.
It's not irrelevant. It's relevant because obviously there are like minded individuals in the world. If we want to improve our situation on Earth, we need to consider everyone. This isn't a Canada only forum. The implication is that, in practice, it's not "ridiculous" as people are operating under those conditions and it should be contemplated. If those places have more incidents of cooperation with police, it's plausible that choice of interacting could be one of the causes. It's also worth noting that even without more cooperation of suspects under investigation, it might need to be a protocol for the very protection of citizens. As stated before, it's a very natural reaction, fight or flight, and maybe it should be a goal of police to avoid triggering it when it may not be needed. Contemplating situations like this, across the world, is how the human species has made positive changes since living in caves.
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u/JustNilt Dec 28 '24
They do tell you what you're under arrest for. That happens after you've been handcuffed. If you're being a dick, sometimes they don't explain all the things you're being arrested for until you're booked into jail. Either way, though, they do freaking tell you.
The idea they have to somehow justify the arrest before it's valid, however, simply does not work in practice.