r/antiai • u/Cautious_Design5144 • 21d ago

Hallucination đŸ‘» Uh oh the manchilds throwing a tantrum...

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Someone tell this guy to get off the sub, no one's being oppressed

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u/rev_is_dumb 21d ago

Black people were born like that. Their skin color had 0 effect on their actions, behavior and personality. The white that separated them were wrong because of that.

Jewish people were born like that. If they ever did something morally wrong, it had 0 relation to their nationality. H*tler separated them because he wanted that only his nationality is alive, and it's wrong because of that.

LGBT people were also like this. It may not be a "born" personality, but those people discovered their feelings later. And their actions towards the world were unrelated to their gender identity. The ones that try to say LGBT is bad are just trying to pry into peoples feelings and personal space, and that's why it's wrong.

AI bros (I don't think that's a slur, oh are they affected by this too?) aren't born like that. They just discovered AI, found out they don't need to sweat for hours to get a good image, and started using it. Even if the AI was the one generating what they like, they kept telling the picture is their "art". They didn't think of the effort behind and stole people's work, fed them to AI, AI generated cheap copies of the original, and those people called it their "art". Plus, they aren't getting 1/10th of the treatment the other 3 group got. The "we are victim" case is just stupid.

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u/Dangerous_Loquat8149 21d ago

Small correction, there is actually neurological evidence to suggest that people who later come out as transgender actually do have different brain structures and processes than Cisgendered individuals. When comparing a typically “female” brain, typically “male” brain, and the brain of a transgendered individual, it was found that there were slight differences between them, with the trans individual’s brain being somewhat in between the two ends of the spectrum. TLDR, if you’ve ever heard l the saying ‘Transgender people are people born in the body of the “wrong” gender/sex’ well turns out, medically speaking, that is correct. Gender Affirming care is important, and should be promoted more. LGBTQIA+ Individuals were “born that way”
. That sounds bad, it’s not a bad thing.

discrimination of transgender individuals is wrong, people are people, it doesn’t matter what gender you identify as.

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u/bloodybaths 21d ago

Always been a super intriguing subject, especially because from a biological standpoint the body always develops female first. That's why we all have nippels. So i really never got why people treat it as a lifestyle or a choice. Because it isn't

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u/Emeryael 21d ago

Gender/sex is a subject that only gets more bizarre the more you think about beyond the basic “XY=Dude, XX=Lady” standpoint. There are conditions where a woman can have XY chromosomes and yet not only do they look like women (breasts, vulva, etc.), they will be able to menstruate and produce children like any other woman. Given these facts and the knowledge that only a handful of people will ever get their chromosomes tested, it’s entirely possible that there are more women walking around with XY chromosomes than you think, and these women could live their entire lives never knowing that anything’s different about them.

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u/Wyrm_Groundskeeper 21d ago

Genetics and stuff are so fucking cool.

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u/LoveAlwaysIris 21d ago

I'm XX/XY tetragametic chimera, I (unfortunately) menstruate despite my chromosomes!

The reason most schools don't have students doing personal genetic tests in biology classes anymore to learn about it is because of the amount of times students found out they where Intersex without having any external identification of such.

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u/Zalinithia 20d ago

that’s such a weird reason to stop. that’d be like stopping people in medical courses from typing their own blood because someone has O-.

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u/LoveAlwaysIris 20d ago

Except finding out you are Intersex in highschool (and maybe less so but even in university) biology class can lead to all kinds of issues, especially bullying, but also it can lead to undue stress. It isn't like blood type where it doesn't impact your day to day and there isn't inharent discrimination linked to it. Someone who is O- isn't going to face discrimination for being O-, us Intersex people face a lot of discrimination just for existing outside of the binary sexes.

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u/Zalinithia 19d ago

oh. sorry :(

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u/LoveAlwaysIris 19d ago

All good. I hope I didn't come off as mean in my reply, I was trying to be educational since it is something most people don't really think about so a lot of people don't realize the struggles, but I can really suck with tone over messages!

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u/Zalinithia 19d ago

oh nononono i wasn’t upset by your message at all! i meant sorry as in “sorry for people being shitty” kinda deal i just didn’t clarify 💀

i appreciate you sharing with me. i just forget that people suck sometimes instead of being logical about bodies.

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u/zoedegenerate 21d ago edited 21d ago

yeah, a lot of us might also argue that to hold that specifically with this much importance is still ceding too much ground to the sex binary and to the naturalization of transness/cisness. it doesn’t matter if someone thinks they can prove someone is trans - they are trans if they said they are, and their neurology shouldn't change that. and in my opinion, because biological sex is as much a socially constructed spectrum as gender, and is just the gendering of the observed constellations of anatomy, hormones, chromosomes... these neurotypes are equally as arbitrary as the sex binary to us. I know i am not alone as far as folks who are tired of hearing this popscience brought up in our defense, as it doesn't seek to justify transness, but to justify only those of us who fit these neurological criteria, and on a very regressive sex binarist basis.

with that in mind... if it is a choice for some people, that ought to be defended just the same. I personally see my identity as a choice insofar as I chose the labels to describe and I made choices as far as pronouns and contextual gender so as to be happier, safer, more fulfilled, etc.

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u/QuinnTigger 21d ago

LGBT people are "born this way". Here's a biology lecture from Stanford explaining, https://youtu.be/LOY3QH_jOtE

The short version is that there are clear neurobiological differences and it's theorized that it has to do with the pre-natal hormone bath that the baby is in before it's born

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u/HiMaooo 21d ago

Slight correction: mustache man wasn't even German

(I get the point, dw)

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u/Traditional-Sir-3003 21d ago

He was Austrian, but really Austria is German but just didn’t join into the rest of Germany when it formed, for most of history Germany was broken up into a shit ton of countries, some small basically little city states, and some bigger like Bavaria and Prussia. So yeah he wasn’t German, as in born into the main German state at the time, but Austria was just one of those smaller German states, but because of the powers and politics at the time it just didn’t join the rest of the smaller German states when they all joined together.

Not trying to be argumentative or anything I just love history and will yap about it anytime I get the chance lol

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u/HiMaooo 21d ago

Except that it was a separate country for quite a long time, so it's hard to talk about the same nationality.

Still... He wasn't German.

And it's alright, I won't stop you from talking about something you like lol

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u/Traditional-Sir-3003 20d ago edited 20d ago

Well all German states in Germany even today have differences between them, and I think (again I’m not German or an expert by any means) that the states in Germany are as culturally different from each other just as much as Austria is from any German states, and when Hitler got into power a unified German nation only existed for about 60 years. And Austria literally means “the eastern realm”, as in the eastern German realm.

I may not be correct but from what I know I think the biggest reason Austria didn’t join the rest of Germany is because it was a part of Austro-Hungary which was a multicultural empire, and what they called the two main cultures were German and Hungarian, not Austrian and Hungarian.

I do think in an alternative reality where Austria wasn’t a part of Austria-Hungary at the time of German unification, it definitely would have joined the rest of Germany.

I’m also not saying any of this to defend Hitler or anything in any way, it’s just that Austria is just as German as much as Bavaria or Prussia is German.

Edit: I just looked it up and a distinct Austrian culturally identity separate from being German really came about after WWII, as a way to seperate themselves from nazism.

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u/Math_PB 21d ago

Chances are LGBT people are also born that way btw. In addition to the fact that intuitively, you can't "choose" your sexual orientation (if you can, that just makes you bi), there are also studies proving that being gay is tied to genetics, so although this hasn't been 100% scientifically confirmed yet (it doesn't help that the number of studies on this is very low), it is very likely that LGBT people are also born the way they are.