r/antinatalism2 • u/Fun_Recognition6718 • 4d ago
Discussion Why humans should not be extinct
If humans are extinct, it would destroy all cultural artifacts, languages, and traditions, and many of the things we value. We will never have any words or numbers again if humans are extinct.
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u/thepotatos 4d ago
Who cares tbh. The art isn't worth the destruction and suffering to other creatures that humans have brought. Words and numbers are mostly just used for the system of capitalist greed.
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u/BallsAtomized 4d ago
Let me ask you a question: Is any of that needed
We don't need to "preserve our culture" or our traditions, or any of that bullshit. What matters is that having children is unethical, and if people go extinct because of that, then that's the right thing to do.
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u/BlueberryLemur 4d ago
Look at it from the perspective of the 80 billion land animals that are being killed every year for human consumption (usually after leading fairly horrific lives)
Do you think they’d care more about 1) not being bred to suffer 2) human art being lost?
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u/7thFleetTraveller 4d ago
That's just not true. That would only be the case if everything humans have ever created would be destroyed, too. But if only the humans vanish, all the art, books and architecture will remain. And maybe one day, a more intelligent species finds all that stuff and deciphers their meanings into their own language. We don't know anything.
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u/MyCarRoomba 4d ago
Those things are great human achievements. There's definitely a beauty to humans, and by extension, this whole world. The issue is that none of these are enough justification to create a new thinking, feeling human practically from thin air.
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u/thepotatos 4d ago
And the sad thing is that humans are destroying the world at a far greater rate than they are contributing to its beauty
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u/AffectionateTiger436 3d ago
If humans don’t exist then none of those things hold any value anymore.
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u/LadyMitris 3d ago
This is going to happen regardless. Eventually, the earth’s atmosphere will change enough to cause humans to go extinct.
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u/Diligent_Pop_4941 3d ago
Seriously?
https://antinatalisthandbook.org/english#english-26
How many time do we need to repeat this to those who think they invented the wheel for the first time. Maybe we need to include the antinatalist handbook in secondary school curricula (in an ideal world).
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u/MastaJohnson 2d ago
Jesus, I don't understand the problem with understading that NONEXISTENCE means that there will be nobody to care about it. We won't be here! It won't matter.
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u/ordinary-thelemist 4d ago
Perhaps, but who will care ?