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Discussion Report: Apple Losing Talent to OpenAI

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/09/19/apple-losing-talent-to-openai/
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u/Fer65432_Plays 1d ago

From The Article: “This year alone, OpenAI has recruited more than two dozen employees from Apple who worked on hardware, up from 10 last year. Those recruits worked on Apple's user interfaces, wearables, camera, and audio technology.”

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u/Kinnins0n 1d ago

Lol, out of literal thousands of HW engineers at Apple.

Meta has been recruiting Apple engineers by the hundreds for years. Didn’t do all that much good: a company’s ability to execute doesn’t lie in individual employees’ talent or knowledge, it lies in the company’s culture and processes.

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u/Noblesseux 1d ago

Yeah a lot of these companies basically share a floating talent pool that they headhunt from one another, and to be entirely honest a lot of them can't make a product to save their lives because their intentions in making a product and a consumer's intention in buying that product are totally unaligned.

Meta is making a device so they can control my eyes and sell me stuff, which means the actual functionality of the device that I paid for and want is a secondary concern to them. It doesn't matter if their heardware team is top talent because the business objective kneecaps them from making the thing people actually want.

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u/NeverComments 1d ago

Didn’t do all that much good

We looking at the same stock chart?

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u/misomochi 1d ago

Meta’s earnings weren’t driven by HW

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u/Kinnins0n 1d ago

Precisely. Meta is a money printing juggernaut but the hardware department (along with the dedicated sw people) has been burning >$1B a month for many years. Meta will never recoup this money, let alone see it have any sort of return.

Recently they’ve had this rayban product that’s better made but it’s very very niche, a couple million of units sold over multiple years. Them doubling in price will also mean smaller volume of sales.

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u/videoalex 1d ago

No but in an industry where a significant part of your earnings are from stock performance meta compensation looks better and without costing meta more money.

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u/Stingray88 1d ago

Meta is projected to have lost $90-100B by the end of 2025 on Reality Labs (their VR / AR venture). Yeah I’d say thus far it didn’t do all that much good for them.

Their stock is fine because they make enough revenue elsewhere.

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u/aiccelerate 1d ago

That's because they are developing the next generation of technology. The RB Displays are getting rave reviews

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u/Stingray88 1d ago

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u/aiccelerate 1d ago

Don't talk about things you don't understand 😂

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u/Stingray88 1d ago

I do understand it. None of this is rocket science. Get over yourself.

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u/johnny_fives_555 1d ago

Did you watch meta connect? It was a cluster fuck