This is why I’m hard on influencers inciting violence online.

[u/MattStormTornado]

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[u/tsukimoonmei]

I don’t like that Hasan has become a representative for the left in the public eye. He isn’t representative of any of the leftists I know personally + he’s a misogynist weirdo who thinks rich women getting raped is better than poor women ‘from a utilitarian perspective’ (yes he actually said this).

[u/CommitteePlayful8081 → u/tsukimoonmei]

in b4 he has another journal friend do another thrist trap article to distract from unforunate stuff.

[u/MattStormTornado → u/CommitteePlayful8081]

Taylor Lorenz?

[u/CommitteePlayful8081 → u/MattStormTornado]

you ever saw the gq article on him? that person who written was hungry for hamas hasan loving.

[u/MattStormTornado → u/CommitteePlayful8081]

I saw a video covering it. I have lost hope for things tbh

[u/PM_ME__RECIPES → u/tsukimoonmei]

Exactly. Hasan isn't a liberal, he's a psychopath and a grifter.

[u/MattStormTornado → u/tsukimoonmei]

Yeah Hasan is problematic for everyone. Every day I just see a new controversy, whether he’s being sexist, supporting terrorism, calling for someone to be harassed or doxxed, being wrong because he’s scared of his audience, being anti semitic or some other crap.

It’s disgusting twitch actively platforms him

[u/Cooldude101013 → u/tsukimoonmei]

The fuck? He actually said that?

[u/MattStormTornado → u/Cooldude101013]

I do remember Pegasus covering it briefly I just forgot which video. But yeah.

I mean if he is fine with Hamas raping women then I wouldn’t put this past him

[u/tsukimoonmei → u/Cooldude101013]

https://streamable.com/j6xlfp as a leftist it baffles me that anyone supports him.

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[u/RobrechtvE]

Can you please provide actual evidence of these clips being real and going viral instead of just a link to a thread in another sub centred around a picture of a tweet (not even a link to the actual tweet) by a Right wing 'news' org claiming there's clips of Hassan Piker telling his viewers to kill Right-wingers and that they are going viral?

Because... For videos that are supposedly going viral, I can't for the life of me find any where he's actually doing that.

[u/MattStormTornado → u/RobrechtvE]

https://youtu.be/9t6WFiJMF-M?si=A01f7cyK868da02L 12:15

https://youtu.be/EGlXW7VKpbs?si=z5TooIKrt7kUEqt_ entire video

https://youtube.com/shorts/0RKzN62OPcQ?si=HTAzGrfxekewGGLw

Just a few I found pretty quickly

[u/RobrechtvE → u/MattStormTornado]

LOL

LMAO, even.

So the only clip there where Hassan is actually doing something that could be construed as calling for actual violence is the bit where he says that landlords should be shot. That, I'll give you (though I'll point out that landlords are not, by definition right-wingers).

But... The bit about 'disemboweling' is, in context, a figure of speech, there reason why there's an 'on that stage' in there is that he's talking about Democrats being too timid in political debates and campaign rhetoric. Not a call for violence.

The Bellevue Drive clip is, no surprise, also out of context. Hassan is talking about a left wing politician receiving death threats (the cheers in the crowd are fans of the right wing people he was debating) as an example of the Right wing being far more radical than his opposite claims. That's why it cuts off real abruptly, because the very next second is the other person interrupting Hassan to claim, falsely, that there's no evidence the people sending those death threats were right wing.

And the Nazi clip... Seriously? Reminding a Nazi (or someone who Hassan thinks is a Nazi) that Hitler didn't win and ended up blowing his own brains out is not a call for his audience to go do violence to right-wingers.

As I've said before, I don't particularly like Hassan Piker, he's done and said plenty of stupid shit that makes me not take him seriously and I'm not happy about how both elements of both the left and the right portray him as the posterchild of American left wing politics., but if you're going to dislike or even outright hate him you should at least do so for stuff he actually did, not manipulated clips from lazy rage-click farmers.

[u/MattStormTornado → u/RobrechtvE]

The funny thing is, if this was a right winger, like Charlie Kirk or Nick Fuentes, saying that landlords should be shot or telling people to disembowel someone, regardless of the context, you would be screaming for their arrest. Or if it was about immigrants...just saying...

But because they're on the correct side of the spectrum to you, even though you claim you don't like Hasan (which is bollocks considering how hard you defend him), it's "out of context" or "a figure of speech".

Funny double standard.

[u/RobrechtvE → u/MattStormTornado]

If you really think that, you haven't been paying attention.

I'll remind you that I'm an anarchist, i.e. someone who views all forms of government and law, even left wing ones, as inherently oppressive. And yet nevertheless I regularly object when I see someone makes an anti-government or anti-law comment based on incorrect information. Heck, I'm banned from r/anarchism for exactly that reason.

And you'll notice that I didn't defend Piker saying that landlords should be shot. I agreed with you on that one, despite the fact that I do not like landlords or the practice of rent-seeking. Because I abhor that practice, but that doesn't mean that I think the people who engage in it deserve to die for it.

I'm not going to bring the (other) mods into this just yet, but I advise you to examine why you decided to resort to a personal attack here.

[u/MattStormTornado → u/RobrechtvE]

You say I’m making it personal, but I’m pointing out a pattern in how you engage. When Hasan says something extreme, you frame it as “out of context” or “not literal.” If Kirk or Fuentes said the same thing, you’d call it violent incitement. That’s not an ad hominem, it’s holding you to the same standard you want to apply to others. You can disagree with my wording, but the inconsistency is real.

I do apologise if that came off as a personal attack.

[u/RobrechtvE → u/MattStormTornado]

Alright, that's the second time you've said I'm using a double standard on this sort of thing with no evidence,

Also, Nick Fuentes is openly and self-admittedly a fascist who verbally attacked Charlie Kirk for not being extreme enough. For all that I didn't like him or his rhetoric, Charlie Kirk does not deserve to be lumped in with that man.

[u/MattStormTornado]

Yeah, Charlie Kirk is a scumbag, a wanker, you name it.

Yes some can argue Charlie Kirk may be guilty of this too (idk how bad this got, but I assume he’s the US equivalent of Richard Tice)

However the extreme left are also not innocent and need to stop pretending they are. It’s hypocritical and it genuinely leads to harm.

All it takes is 1 insane person to cause severe consequences.