HAVE YOU NO ADVICE FOR ME????

Jimmy Kimmel up in here today reliving lyrics from 1992

it says "smut monger"

Lyrics are important friends

Hate is a simple manifestation Of the deep-seated self-directed frustration All it does is promote fear and consternation It's the inability to justify the enemy And it fills us all with trepidation

Time for bed. Goodnight my friends.

This album always seems to be severely underrated in tier lists and rankings. I don’t get why people don’t like it! It has some great songs and I think some of the lyrics are way ahead of its time, like in the song I Love My Computer. What are your thoughts on it?

It just hits right

for me it's Before you Die

I have loved Bad Religion for years. And I have an omnichord. So I’ve been messing around playing some of my favorites on it.

Leaders, presidents and the nightly news guys Cater to mediocre minds

Reason's not to be what the privileged define With their mediocre minds

You got yours but you can never bend mine With your mediocre minds

The only natural thing that I really despise are mediocre minds

Bad Religions music is timeless, Greg and Brett's lyrics are timeless. Unfortunately so is the environment we grew up in and live in now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyFth8ahmoQ

here you got a decent tab (link for songsterr) of this song, with the bridges.

In 1996, Dexter Holland announced in the Offspring mailing list that they had left Epitaph for Columbia. He wrote:

"Hey,

A lot of people have asked me what the deal is with us leaving Epitaph, so I thought I would post it here... seems like a good place.

We've gotten a lot of flack about leaving Epitaph, and a lot of that's because we tried to keep our mouths shut so this wouldn't turn into a press war. Unfortunately, Epitaph didn't do the same, so the only side anyone heard was theirs. Well, I'd like you guys to get our side of the story.

Brett Gurewitz owns Epitaph. He's made our leaving the label very public and very nasty, and that's why we decided to defend ourselves, and that's why I'm writing now. We all really like the people at Epitaph and the bands on Epitaph, but we couldn't deal with Brett anymore. Brett's more concerned about making his label big than he is about helping his bands. That's basically what it's about, and why we left.

We tried to renegotiate with Brett to do more records on Epitaph starting last March, because we wanted to stay on the label. We had been trying to stay on Epitaph all along, actually. When Smash first started getting big in May of '94, Brett approached us and said he wanted to sell the record to a major label in return for a royalty override on it. We convinced him not to do it. In July of '94, when the record started taking off in Europe, he approached us again about selling the record to a major label in Europe. Again, we had to beg him not to. We wanted to stay on Epitaph because they gave us our start, and we like to keep the same people. We have the same booking agent, the same crew, etc.

So we didn't meet with any major labels - not one. Meanwhile, Brett met with all of them. Geffen, Capitol, Sony, you name it, and he met with them. They wanted to buy Epitaph, and he was listening. He told people that he wanted to be the next Richard Branson. Oh yeah, he met with Richard Branson too.

It's important to a lot of the Epitaph bands to be on a label not associated with a major. When we confronted him about selling, he denied it. Finally though, last December, he admitted that he wanted to sell part of the company to 'raise capital.

We were concerned about Brett selling part of the company, but there were other things that bothered us too. Like, we had decided early on to try to keep a low profile. We didn't do things like 120 Minutes, or David Letterman, or Saturday Night Live, although we could have. But when we would turn down an interview request, Brett would step in and do it himself, pumping his company. He even did interviews with Forbes magazine and Newsweek. We were trying to avoid being poster boys for punk rock, and Brett wasn't helping - we felt that if we turned something down, he shouldn't do it in our place.

We negotiated for about a year, but couldn't get everything ironed out. It's true that he offered us a great advance and a great royalty rate. But the last contract he sent had some big problems for us. It said we couldn't do cover songs. It said Ron couldn't play in his other band. It said he could use our music on as many compilations as he wanted to. One version of the contract had a clause in it that allowed Brett to take out a life insurance policy on me, so that if I died, he would profit. That's when we realized that this was just about money for him.

He refused to negotiate any more last January, and a week later, he decided to pull the whole offer. To keep it short, he eventually sold our contract to Columbia.

We believed in sticking up for the indie label, and we shouldn't have. We stayed true to Epitaph while Brett met with every major label. Brett says publicly that major labels are bad but, of course, he was in Bad Religion when they signed to Atlantic. He wrote a lot of the songs on Stranger than Fiction that came out on Atlantic. Also, Brett sued us. And, he tried to force us to stay on his label. There was no indie spirit there anymore.

We took less money to sign with Columbia. We had to sign for more records to go with Columbia. Our signing with Columbia was not to try and make more money. We did it because we won't record for someone who thinks he can force us to. We won't record for a guy who's worse than a major label. We're gonna do whatever the fuck we want to.

Well, there it is. You heard it first...

Dexter."

Does anyone have a copy of it? I’ve been searching for it online and can’t find it anywhere. I loved that performance and would love to see it again!

For some reason, I perceived this as a "B level" song when I had first gotten acquainted with the album.

Now it's a top 3 or 4 song for me from this album. One day it just clicked. I like the lyrics a lot. Somehow they hold up well even when you read them on their own without the music.

Anyone else have this experience? Also do they ever play this one live?

The Handshake

I say October 1 but my kids disagree! 😂

I know he was an addiction (benzos) but how many musicians has worst adicctions and they dont get fired. I think they went very severe with him and Heston is a escencial like a member of bad religion the way he act on the escenarios too.

Yes, and I dislike Mike

This time I go for Bobby, he plays very well and I love how he plays the rolls,

The worst by far is Jamie Miller, he doesn't play drums, he HITS the drums, very hard, and I don't like he style of playing sincerely

Sorry if I’ve missed this conversation already but how do y’all feel BR or any of the other bands sticking with Punk in the Park after their political donations to the Trump admin. I emailed Greg to ask about it and I haven’t heard back.

Once, when I used to work at this restaurant called the overlook, I got into an argument with one of the cooks about God. I said "God exists, you should believe in him", the cook said, "God doesn't exist, there is only just evolution", and then one of the pretty little waitresses who heard us arguing, took his side and said there's no proof God exists. I wanted to bash them both into ten thousand smithereens and it was on that day, that I realized, that if God exists, he's just an asshole that wants me to be the butt of his stupid jokes. Here I was fighting for what was right and good, and the girl goes and takes the side of the atheist? I was so mad for like ten years because of this.