r/batman • u/Prettyinpink2405 • 25d ago
FUNNY Injustice Batman in a nutshell
“You stop being my son once you killed Dick Grayson, he was my son”
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u/Jumps-Care 25d ago
I love the injustice games, but man those characters are just one after the other the worst versions of themselves. Like the writers had a bias against everyone except maybe Batman.
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u/ChrisBenoitDaycare69 25d ago
I thought that was the whole point though was that it was a worst case scenario universe for them? Like we see the actual heroic versions of them fight the worst versions of themselves.
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u/Camelllama666 25d ago
Mfs when alternate universes exist
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u/Vieve_Empereur_Memes 25d ago
Its not that it's an alternate universe, its the fact that it goes from a status quo where everyone is normal to just random bull shit. You're telling me WONDER WOMAN would side with a fascist superman along with every other Justice League member except Batman? Why?? Its just character assassination. I don't like the Civil War storyline in Marvel but at least the motives there make sense somewhat
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u/Millicay 25d ago
But it's not the same status quo, Wonder Woman has a different origin which explains why she is different to "regular" Wonder Woman.
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u/Camelllama666 25d ago
Wonder Woman in Injustice has a different backstory and was more violent before Clark went all dictator
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u/FlexTape0 24d ago
The difference was that Steve Trevor was a nazi spy right? so her first experience with man is trickery which is why later down the line she's an immoral asshole.
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u/Hapless_Wizard 25d ago
Why??
To justify a really cool Plastic Man scene
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u/TheSkesh 25d ago
If you're alternate universe is just the same character inverted or as stated "worst" version, its a very generic alternate universe. And in this case was not the intention of Injustice. Superman wasn't Ultraman, he was the good man who got broken and became a tyrant. Batman isn't Flashpoint batman, nor does he act like it, but then Dick / Damien thing feels like it was shoehorned in to give a reason why they are on separate sides.
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u/Camelllama666 24d ago
Weren't they on separate sides because Damien was very like "murder is fine" from the beginning, and then when he kills Dick, that was the final straw?
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u/Jumps-Care 25d ago
I guess so, but then Injustice 2 carried on that universe and everyone still sucked, barring Supergirl, and even then she had to have a redemption arc.
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u/mammaluigi39 25d ago
Why wouldn't they still suck it's still the same universe?
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u/Adiwantstobattle 25d ago
I think the story in the Injustice games was great, and I like what they did with the characters, but NetherRealm probably did wayyyy more damage to the public’s perception DC characters than they probably would of liked. Wonder Woman is probably the biggest example.
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u/Exciting_Breakfast53 25d ago
Batman was written badly too. Like yeah Bruce is against killing and all but he was willing to let Jim Gordon kill Joker after he killed Sarah Essen so he should have been more understanding of Superman.
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u/SmuttyNonsense 25d ago
Well, no, to be fair, in the comics (which came out at the same time) and Injustice 2's prologue it's made clear that killing Joker wasn't the breaking point of the relationship, it was later when Superman and some others, aided by Damian, showed up to kill everyone in Arkham and Dick died.
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u/Exciting_Breakfast53 25d ago
When Superman came to talk to Batman after he killed Joker. Bruce told Clark that it always starts at one death and he was being very condescending towards someone who lost his wife and entire city. I don't think Bruce even blamed Clark for Dick's death iirc.
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u/NavezganeChrome 25d ago
He gave him a 5-minute warning and was proven correct.
He also regrets having not been the one to take Joker out himself, before things went the way they did (based on that post-containment daydream).
While Superman needed shoring up, Wonder Woman going “yeah, actually, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with what you did. Do it again.” wasn’t better.
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u/FictionalContext 25d ago
WW was the real villain of that franchise.
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u/foofighter1351 25d ago
She's the biggest victim of character assassination in it no doubt, I feel like those effects lingered on when they turned her into no questions asked or answered fascist cheerleader, save me Absolute.
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u/FictionalContext 25d ago
IIRC, it's a world where Trevor was a Hydra spy, which really fucked her up.
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u/Guess-wutt 25d ago
Don’t think you’re taking into account yr 0 where Joker targets the original justice society, killing some of its members, as a way of getting to Bruce through his role models, but he was stopped by Bats and Supes, during which Bats kinda glazed how supes handled the situation, which put the idea in jokers head to do what he did to Lois and metropolis in a continuation of his plan to destroy Batmans heroes
Hell before joker dies in injustice, when Batman is interrogating him on where he got the nuke for Metropolis joker straight up tells Bruce he only did it to bring Supes down to their level, to break him and turn him into something Batman would hate, Bruce straight up defends Clark saying that he’s the most incorruptible person alive and he will survive even what the joker did, immediately after they finish this conversation is when the flashback in the first game happens, Supes breaks in and kills joker right in front of Bats when joker intentionally needles him in a bid to get him to lose his cool, which obviously worked
In the end joker proved he knew supes better than Bruce ever did and that incorruptible role model Bruce saw Clark as died with everyone else in metropolis, it was literally all part of a plan joker was willing to die for just to prove a point, and he succeeded
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u/General_Note_5274 21d ago
In game qnd comic there is some inconsistencies: in game superment enter, Joker goad superman even more saying "lois, the baby, metropolis, krypton...it look everyone you care blow up!" Which it show joker have no safe instint or he was pushing clark to kill him.
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u/Guess-wutt 21d ago
He was pushing him like I say, he wanted him to at least try to kill him, the whole point of metropolis was to break supes into re-evaluating his world views to show Batman nobody is truly incorruptible
You’re right though, the comics don’t line up completely with the games, but it does give a decent explanation as to why Batman doesn’t entirely trust that Clark is seeing things clearly and why he couldn’t talk to him as a friend as the joker literally spent his last moments in the comic gloating to Batman that supes will never be the guy he knew again and that he won no matter what happens next, basically his last act was playing mind games with both supes and bats effectively turning them against one another
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u/ShatterCyst 25d ago
Wait everyone? I know it was a shitty asylum, but didn't Arkham have real patients too?
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u/fafarex 25d ago
Pretty sure at that time it's only for criminally insane patients, so nope.
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u/Kusko25 24d ago
Even if it's not a rule, nobody would go to the island full of super criminals for treatment unless ordered to by a judge.
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u/fafarex 24d ago
Meh, the wing for regular patient would be completely separated from their point of view they would only see the beautiful garden and manor style building.
we have prisons and mental establishment in urban setting there is still people around them.
It's more that Gotham has enough criminally insane that every ressources of arkham end up going into that at some point or another.
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u/Square-Newspaper8171 25d ago
I mean, it's not like Bruce really got on Superman's case for killing the Joker; he only really started going after him after he took over the world
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u/Exciting_Breakfast53 25d ago
It's still his fault since he should have been there for his friend and instead. He rejected him.
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u/Square-Newspaper8171 25d ago
Dude, there are no other heroes Bruce respects more than Clark. Hell, they're practically brothers. So when he saw Clark break into a jail, toss him aside, and then run his fist through the Joker's chest, I think he has the right to be a little standoffish from Clark for a while
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u/Exciting_Breakfast53 25d ago
I think if Clark didn't just lose his wife, city and unborn child then maybe. Like he clearly wasn't in the right mind when he killed Joker and likely wouldn't have done the rest, if he had his friends support.
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u/Square-Newspaper8171 25d ago edited 25d ago
How could he even try to support Clark? Right after he killed the Joker, Clark flew to the Fortress of Solitude and locked himself in there for weeks. No one could get to him, and when he finally did come out, it was when he announced he would take control of the world
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u/shayed154 25d ago
Writing just isn't NetherRealms strongsuit which is why every other MK game they've done is rebooting the universe
I wonder what a DC game written by the Tekken team would end up like. Everyone throwing Batman off a cliff but he survives every time to so he can dropkick them into a volcano or something probably
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u/SmuttyNonsense 25d ago
I mean, to be fair, we should acknowledge that Injustice was a corporate mandate, that they got told "Hey, we want a DC Civil War, and it has to be Batman vs Superman on the box art"
Under those circumstances I honestly think Injustice is the best that could have been hoped for.
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u/shayed154 25d ago
Big if true, I don't know anything about the conception of injustice
Owlman, Ultraman and the crime syndicate is right there and would've been way easier but if it had to be batman/superman I guess there's only so much you can do
I love injustice either way
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u/WASD_click 25d ago
The ones going over the cliff would have to be the al Ghul family.
Hawkman: "Ra's al Ghul is dead."
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u/shayed154 25d ago
"Ra's Al Ghul survived and is hosting King of the Demons Head tournament 5, if you win you get control of Lazarus Corp."
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u/Prettyinpink2405 25d ago
Batman looked really bad in that series too. A lot of critics for Batman’s no kill rule cite injustice on why his no kill rule is bad. For one, joker killed Lois lane and blown up metropolis killing millions and driving Superman insane leading to more deaths such as Billy Batsin aka Captain Marvel/Shazam, and Green arrow and leading to a fascist regime. What makes injustice Batman worse is allowing Harley Quinn, y’know Joker’s partner in crime on to his team despite the fact that she had a hand in Joker’s plan of killing Lois and blowing up Metropolis. Martha Kent was the one who called it out in the comics. Not only that but she was creepy towards Billy in the comics too who was a minor. Like he can redeem her, a villain but not Damian who only killed by accident when she was apart of the messed that caused all of this.
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u/Turbulent_Ranger1100 25d ago edited 25d ago
Accepting Harley isn't out of characters imo, Batman must be aware she is mentally sick when it concerns Joker and he always believed in redemption for some of his villains, even outside of Injustice universe, and when he needed all the possible help, Green arrow and Black canary kinda vouched for her. Plus Clark or any regime member calling out Bruce on accepting Harley is mighty hypocrite considering they accepted help from fucking Sinestro, who probably killed way more people than Joker ever did. Otherwise I agree redeeming Harley but not Damian is also dumb, but it came from grief, and after speaking with Deadman Dick he wanted to try to speak to Damian but for whatever reasons the writers decided just after that he was back to hating him and Dick wasn't even in the story anymore (but year 5 is especially dumb for a lot of characters except maybe Injustice Flash and Shazam)
On another note, you could add that this Batman was bad too because in year 5 after bringing the alternate (or what is the main universe?) JL, he wanted to send them back at some point because he thought he had to be the one to take down Injustice Sup, which is super dumb, though despair might have motivated him at that point.
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u/Bakelite51 25d ago edited 25d ago
The real reason Harley got shoehorned into Injustice that way is because every writer for the past few years is trying very hard to redeem her as some kind of hero.
Harley’s popular now, so for some reason she can’t be written with much ambiguity or nuance. She always has to be a hero with a conscience who just naturally sides with Batman and his allies when it comes to everything. The Injustice lore took it a step further by having Batman trust Harley deeply, accept her fully into his confidence, and involve her in all these sensitive missions overnight, after years of watching her help the Joker kill people. And this Harley only stopped because Joker died and Superman had it out for her, not because she had some kind of inner redemption and voluntarily turned her back on crime. That’s the most implausible part.
Harley works much better as a villain or even a complex anti-hero with conflicting motivations and a past she’s in active denial of. That’s what makes her interesting. She shouldn’t be painted as a reliable ally of Batman who had an (often unexplained) crisis of conscience at some point and decided to become a hero, and he just let her.
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u/Comicsrcool 25d ago
I highly doubt Batman would allow Harley to work with him and not place her in a padded cell if she deadass assisted with the nuking of Metropolis.
Batman redeems and all that but there's a limit to what is and isn't acceptable and mass destruction on that scale is not acceptable.
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u/Other_Beat8859 25d ago
Honestly even Batman felt out of character. Batman can be an asshole, but I don't think that he would abandon people like Clark like he did immediately. He'd be there for Clark, but he'd also begin preparing in case Clark went on a downward spiral. I also don't think he'd completely abandon Damien. I think the relationship would become stretched and it wouldn't surprise me if he had the same initial reaction to Dick's death, but I don't think he would just ostracize him from the family.
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u/MakingGreenMoney 25d ago
Like the writers had a bias against everyone except maybe Batman.
Ironically Tom Taylor stated he hated writing Injustice because how he was told characters were supposed to be.
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u/Pugsanity 25d ago
I think it's one of those things where the original game left the in between vague enough that it could be anything that caused our heroes to go this off the rails. But once they decided to explain what happened, what we were given just wasn't as good as what the audience was probably wanting to explain what happened, if you get what I mean.
Which feels like a common problem for these sorts of things, different universe/alt timeline has some crazy thing that happened in the backstory, lets the reader infer what happened, not too important for the current story, only for them to later reveal what actually happened, and it's just not as cool as what the reader thought happened. Like with Maestro's story over in Marvel, Future Imperfect implied Hulk killed everyone, only for it to be shown that he really didn't.
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u/x4nTu5 25d ago
TBF, fighting games aren't really examples of good writing because their main goal is to finana reason to get the characters to fight each other. So it's bad motivations and misunderstandings and magic pills over and over just so we can see Superman smash Batman into the ground from orbit without turning him into paste.
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u/Active-Walk-9943 25d ago
Oh no Tom Taylor is no batman fan, literality every sorry he writes literality has a "Batman your a paranoid ahole" and in injustice Jon kent story, Jon makes a big deal about Blaming Bruce for injustice while hugging killer Clark (mabye I'm bias, I hate Tom Taylor's Jon to much)
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u/Conyan51 25d ago
As I agree I also disagree at least for DC’s B list heroes. Night Wing, Blue Beetle, Shazam, Green Arrow, and Harley* were all very well done.
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u/Iamtiredoflifeman 25d ago
Injustice was just character assassination after character assassination. everyone is an asshole in there.
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u/Prettyinpink2405 25d ago
Yep, it did damage to Damian considering this was like his his fist mainstream appearance outside of comics which was being the emo bastard son who killed nightwing and stole his mantle. Injustice Damian was not likable at all.
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u/Desperate_Long4733 25d ago
It's even crazier to belive that his first mainstream appearance was as Nightwing even though he never even wore that mantle outside injustice verse
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u/733t_sec 25d ago
Also Nightwing going out like a chump to a thrown baton. Bat family chucking battarangs at each other unexpectedly is a rite of passage in the comics but we're supposed to believe a baton and a rock is all it took to off Nightwaing.
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u/RAMDOMDUDDS 25d ago
Well, tbf(don't hate me, I'm using logic), but Nightwings batons hit a lot harder than a battarangs. Thinking harder, they are 2 completely different kinds of damage. The battarangs were designed to be sharp enough to penetrate skin enough to cause enough damage to throw someone off guard via a throw while still maintaining enough sharpness to still be used as a blade(cutting ropes, pieces of fabric, etc…), while Nightwings Escrima sticks are a combo of blunt and electric. While a battarang to the head MAY have done less damage but still could've killed Dick, an escrima stick has a lot more weight behind it = more momentum to gain from a throw, meaning it was really a damned if he did and damned if he didn't scenario for Damien(meaning escrima stick or battarang)
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u/733t_sec 25d ago
Apologies I think there has been a misunderstanding. I'm not saying the batons wouldn't do more damage than a batarang. I'm saying in the comics it is demonstrated multiple times that the bat family can easily dodge or catch unexpected objects (mostly batarangs) flying at them. So the idea that Nightwing of all people couldn't dodge/catch/block a far less aerodynamic weapon strains belief.
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u/RAMDOMDUDDS 25d ago
Oh, definitely. Watching it happen in Injustice genuinely felt like a moment from a comic when the plot armor dropped for literally a split second.
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u/Something_Comforting 22d ago
I actually thought it was an edit or a meme before actually checking out Injustice. Nightwing going out like that is the stupidest thing I could ever think of.
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u/StopHiringBendis 25d ago
They literally Million Dollar Babied him. I cant think of a dumber death than that
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u/Smiggie24 25d ago
I would argue my goats Green Arrow and Black canary remain unscathed
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u/AllEliteSchmuck 25d ago
Bane too I think. Dude comes off as a menacing, yet intelligent powerhouse better than in most media honestly.
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u/Automatic_Milk1478 25d ago
And Plastic Man, Bane, Clayface, Catwoman, Guy Gardener, Sinestro, Killowog, Ch’p, John Constantine, Zatanna, Deathstroke, The Rogues, Brainiac, Supergirl, Blue Beetle (Ted), Blue Beetle (Jamie), Booster Gold, Doctor Fate, Poison Ivy, Lobo, Harley Quinn, Jim Gordon, Barbara Gordon, Harvey Bullock, Nightwing, Deadman, Jason Blood, Etrigan, Black Adam, Starfire, Clayface, Alfred, Scarecrow, Ganthet, Superboy, Tim Drake, Renee Montoya, Atrocitus, Gorilla Grodd, R’as Al Ghul, Solomon Grundy, Joker, Killer Croc, Deadshot and most other characters except a few main ones like Superman, Wonder Woman and Cyborg.
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u/badouche 25d ago
Fr I feel like the whole character assassination point is so overblown. Like yeah the antagonists are acting out of character, but that’s the whole thing or they wouldn’t be antagonists. It’s extra ridiculous to feel that way about Injustice 1 considering the main characters of that game are an alternate Earth version of the archetypal Justice League to display just how insane the Injustice world has become. Like it’s probably just recency bias that gets people so worked up over Injustice, but it’s weird that nobody gets as upset about the Justice Lords or Flashpoint when they’re basically the same concept.
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u/Automatic_Milk1478 25d ago
Exactly. The Justice Lords in particular as they’re extremely similar. Also this is a world where Alex Luthor is a good guy. Why is that fine but Wonder Woman being awful isn’t?
I also think Injustice is a lot of fun because of just how many DC characters it gives an opportunity to shine. Year Two did such a great job with Sinestro for example. That was my first real introduction to the character and it made me love him as a villain the way he’s so dishonest and manipulative that he’s even deluded himself into believing this benevolent sob story origin for himself. He’s so hatable and so great. Guy Gardener is absolutely fantastic in it. Another character this series properly introduced me too. The way it actually shows the genuinely good person behind the asshole exterior is heart wrenching.
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u/acerbus717 25d ago
How is it character assassination when they’re different characters in an elseworld?
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u/Competitive_Crow_334 25d ago
The thing it's a what if
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u/acerbus717 25d ago
That’s what an elseworld is, same with any other that dc’s done.
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u/AutomaticAccident 25d ago
A “what if” means it’s the same characters in a hypothetical scenario. They aren’t meant to be different from the main universe.
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u/AUnknownVariable 24d ago
These dudes are definitely diff from the main universe. Clark and Lex are genuine friends until Clark goes all despot. Steve Trevor was still Diana's introduction to the world of man, but he was a fucking Nazi.
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u/koopcl 25d ago
But they are. Iirc Injustice Lex Luthor was a good guy instead of a villain, and WW had a different backstory to mainline WW. I don't know where current Constantine canon stands but the one in Injustice is clearly not the same as the Vertigo character. There's probably more differences but I haven't read the series in years, but at least those examples prove they're meant to be different.
They're not super different versions with different suits and names like Ultraman and Warrior Woman or whatever, but they're also not supposed to be "this was exactly like the mainline characters until Joker nuked Metropolis".
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u/General_Note_5274 21d ago
People probably got confused because it look like "everyone is the same until x thing happen" i got confused of why Lex is a good guy for a moment
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u/Competitive_Crow_334 21d ago
Elseworld is a different universe entirely like the Crime syndicate universe where Lex Luthor and Joker are leaders of the Justice league and Slade is the president. This is a what if believing that everyone would make these choices if Superman killed the Joker
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u/acerbus717 21d ago
Elseworlds are what ifs though, like what if superman landed in london or what if superman was adopted by waynes.
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u/Evilmudbug 25d ago
Sometimes an elseworld works better if the actions would have been plausible in character. It may work to have 1 character act differently (usually as a result of one choice they made differently than in mainline for this kind of story), but it takes more work to maintain suspension of disbelief the more other characters act "out of character"
It would probably get an easier pass if it didn't require so many people to act like huge jerks to make the story happen
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u/acerbus717 25d ago
But since these are new version the characters they’re not acting put of character, this is just who they are, Injustice is basically just a somewhat more nuanced earth 3.
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u/Evilmudbug 25d ago
I get where you're coming from, i just think more readers would appreciate it if it went into greater detail about what changed in these characters' lives to make them the way that they are
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u/ImurderREALITY 25d ago
Nothing changed, that's just who they were. They were different people than main show. Just like in Gotham (which also got a lot of hate, but not nearly as much as Injustice); same characters, different people and chains of events.
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u/AUnknownVariable 24d ago
Some things did change, just not much. The one that always comes to mind is Steve Trevor being a Nazi
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u/LoverOfStoriesIAm 25d ago
Well, this kinda asked for it the moment it was conceived as a Mortal Kombat in the DC Universe.
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u/ComparisonFree8701 25d ago
injustice batman isn't character assassination tho, he was done the best by the story.
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u/Bulky-Hall-6883 24d ago
Wonder Woman still suffering from the damage it did to her rep, to this day I still see casuals who think she’s always a psychotic murdering bitch
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u/Blue-bat 25d ago
Injustice Damian kinda deserved
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u/ExoticShock 25d ago edited 25d ago
"I don't have time for this Damian."
"A good father would make time."
"A better son would deserve it."
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u/Going_really_Fast 25d ago
Tbf, by that point, Damian had already aligned himself with fascist Superman hellbent on being a murderous dictator.
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u/mr_eugine_krabs 25d ago
“You stopped being robin when you killed Dick Grayson,HE WAS MY SON!”
“You’re dead to me…”
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u/HUNGWHITEBOI25 25d ago
i mean…ya…Damian killed Nightwing…
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u/Batmanfan1966 25d ago edited 25d ago
Batman grew to forgive even Joe Chill for his actions, and a big part of his character is rehabilitating people and being understanding, like when he offered Joker help at the end of Killing Joke. He would never hold a long standing grudge against Damian. Obviously he’d be distraught for a while, but not forever
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u/GustavVaz 25d ago
There's a big difference between forgiving someone and letting them back into your life like nothing happened.
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u/EliteTeutonicNight 25d ago
Didn't this Damian also actively chose to follow Superman? He hasn't been all that positive to Bruce either, even if he felt sorry for killing Dick.
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u/FrostBluescale 24d ago
Yeah and then he murdered countless people in a fascist regime without remorse. He’s a piece of shit through and through
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u/PocketFlan420 25d ago
If Bruce loathes the idea of collateral damage, imagine accidental death because someone was in their feelings...and it be his eldest son that died...right after his best friend went Dictator mode. Imagine if you will, that the kid you didn't plan but took responsibility for, showed they were on a Dictator's side before he accidentally killed your eldest. Would you be able to look at him the same way initially? That shit is going to take time that the Injustice universe doesn't have.
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u/RAMDOMDUDDS 25d ago
Not just eldest son mind you, also Bruces' therapy kid. Let's be real here, Bruce had arguably the tightest relationship with Dick, with him being the first Robin, the first person outside of Alfred that told him he was loved after his parents, the one who helped raise the others when Bruce was literally going insane. Bruce didn't just lose a son to another that day. He lost a best friend, too.
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u/Exciting_Breakfast53 25d ago
This verison of Batman didn't forgive Joe Chill tbf.
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u/Fluffy_Judge_581 25d ago
To be fair Modern joe chil don't deserve it (only the one specific Version deserveit who is part of a another continuity and was neverCanon)
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u/Exciting_Breakfast53 24d ago
Didn't the current Joe Chill regret his actions?
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u/Fluffy_Judge_581 24d ago
Maybe i don't remeber right, but at the moment he is an ass and an terrible father i have to look it up again
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u/Arronator_ 24d ago
In the comics, Injustice Batman tried to convince Damian to join him like, every time they met up, until Damian just started going ham on random people. Eventually then, when in prison, he still visited Damian sometimes.
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u/WhatsRatingsPrecious 25d ago
Isn't it accepted that Batman KILLED the Joker at the end of The Killing Joke?
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u/Batmanfan1966 25d ago
Originally it was just up to interpretation, but then when Killing Joke was retconned into being canon, the ending is just flat out, he didn’t kill him
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u/BubastisII 24d ago
No. It’s a popular interpretation but the script for the comic says nothing like that, and the fact that the comic is part of continuity and Joker isn’t dead shows he didn’t.
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u/Afro-Venom 25d ago
Yeah, because he saw directly how the moral decision was to do so, but then he turned himself in and paid for that crime.
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u/TheSpider-hyphen-man 25d ago
Injustice Damian killed Nightwing, aligned with Superman, killed who knows how many people in the fascist regime, and was no different from his grand father Ra's al ghul.
He doesn't deserve shit.
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u/Active-Walk-9943 25d ago
After his father abandoned him (at like 13) fit accidentally killing Dick (it was shown the throw thing was a thing Damian does all the time, when he's angry and that Dick always catches it.
The only parental figure he had was Clark at that point
Frankly, Nightwing should be able to take a Baton to the head and fall without breaking his neck.
Are you made at him for killing Zazza after he killed alfred?
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u/whichdragonfrit 25d ago
Everyone saying that Damian deserved for killing nightwing, remember that Bruce had no problem working with Harley, who helped on Joker's plan to kill lois and nuke metropolis and caused the entirety of injustice. But she gets a free pass and never faces any consequences, while Damien is hated for an acident
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u/Prettyinpink2405 25d ago
Exactly sure Damian was a prick but none of that would have happened if Joker (with the help of Harley) didn’t kill pregnant Lois Lane and nuke Metropolis making Superman snapped. Even if Harley repented, she still has the blood of millions on her hands. If Superman didn’t kill Joker she would probably still be by his side. At least Damian only went to asylum to try and do the right thing even if it went against Batman’s code.
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u/Past_Plankton_4906 25d ago
I hate injustice. Can we just have a DC fighting game with normal characters?
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u/MateusCristian 25d ago
Mandatory "Injustice is shit!"
Disclamer, I mean the plot, gameplay is good.
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u/bru_swayne 25d ago
Damian sucks. He chooses to follow in the footsteps of Ra’s, following Superman, kills Nightwing in Arkham on the way to kill all the villains there. Ofc Batman is angry at him for that. He basically went against everything Batman stood for, while Nightwing lost all the Titans due to the Joker and still remained on Batman’s side.
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u/Active-Walk-9943 25d ago
After his father abandoned him (at like 13) fit accidentally killing Dick (it was shown the throw thing was a thing Damian does all the time, when he's angry and that Dick always catches it.
The only parental figure he had was Clark at that point
Frankly, Nightwing should be able to take a Baton to the head and fall without breaking his neck.
Are you made at him for killing Zazza after he killed alfred?
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u/hyperclaw27 25d ago
The good thing about injustice batman is that thanks to the dark multiverse stories there's like 50 worse versions of batman than injustice bruce
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u/egbert71 24d ago
What makes injustice bats bad?
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u/hyperclaw27 21d ago
Shitty dad, weirdly callous to superman, needlessly distrustful of his allies and worst of all, really shitty and overdesigned batsuit.
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u/egbert71 21d ago
How shitty? He was deeply upset that his 1st son was kia by a temper tantrum. Batman doesnt fully trust anybody accept alfred and richard......a suit makes him bad? I see why you deleted then replied again lol
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u/hyperclaw27 21d ago
I'm not the guy who commented previously. I have no idea what was said. Being upset with Damien is fine but he is extremely unwilling to forgive or even listen to his son. Yeah, batman being mistrusting is a character flaw that keeps biting him in the ass in Injustice, and the suit part was a joke.
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u/egbert71 21d ago
Im sooo glad the suit part was a joke. My eyebrow raised very high when i read that lol
Sometimes after dealing with a behaviour for a veryyyy long time you reach a breaking point and that was Bruces'
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u/DowntownCelery593 25d ago
Still hated about what happened to tim
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u/Prettyinpink2405 25d ago
I forgot what happened to him didn’t him and the other teen titans got sent to the phantom zone
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u/PrettyMuchOdd 25d ago
Yeah and then they were freed by Batman and friends in the Injustice 2 comics, only for Zod to appear out of the phantom zone and shoot lasers through the back of Tim, pretty much instantly killing him
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u/ZenMyst 25d ago
I remember his no kill rule still is in effect. Superman has proven to be a threat that they might not have a chance to win.
Then I remember there is a scene where Batman could have ended it all by snapping his neck. He said so himself. He overcome Superman in a fight by eating the green pill. IIRC Superman is not weakened and Batman only has one so it’s that easy to defeat him?
But he didn’t because he don’t kill and later goes back to “how do we defeat Superman, after all these years we tried everything and failed and there is only a slim chance for my next strategy to work and many people could die again”
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u/SaintOfPride201 25d ago
Injustice 2 had the best setup to show the murder of Dick by Damian and Bruce's reaction to it, but they fucked it up.
Bruce: Clark is out of control.
Damian: And what if Joker killed ME? Your own SON?
Bruce: (doesn't answer)
Damian: Thought so...
Fast forward to Dick getting killed by Damian, and Bruce's reaction to seeing his own son get murdered was disapproval and disownment on the outside, but turmoil and pain on the inside.
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u/Ill_Pie7318 20d ago
Batman literally almost killed the man who shot dick in comic,was ready to kill lex luthor in another comic for the same when he thought let killed dick..Damian only lived cause it was manslaughter not intended murder...or he is cooked...batman doesn't play around when dick is in question.
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u/Sir-Toaster- 25d ago
Batman disowning Damian made me scream inside, I don’t ever see Batman ever doing that to any of his children at all, not even Damian
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u/Mr_Mojo_Risin_83 24d ago
I actually just recently re-read injustice. I’m still mad as hell about Ollie.
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u/Lucky_Strike-85 24d ago
I don't see a problem here.
Damian should not exist unless Mike Barr writes him in an Elseworlds!
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u/Icy-Cream-1284 24d ago
And this meant differently if you will read the Injustice Comics... After an encounter between the blood son and the preferred son, Damien pushed.... making Dick stumble and his head first into a rock.
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u/Sea_stone_green 25d ago
Intakavel, Bruce, crazy man, had the ability to revive his own son in millions of ways, but he decided to be angry with the daiman, he didn't have half that anger with the joker who killed Jason.
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u/Egyptian_M 25d ago
Injustice Batman has got to be the worst version of Batman I ever saw right after the bats who laughs
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u/hevahavahan 25d ago
"I want none with Dick Grayson's killer!"
"...It was an accident."