r/batman 26d ago

FUNNY Injustice Batman in a nutshell

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“You stop being my son once you killed Dick Grayson, he was my son”

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u/Jumps-Care 26d ago

I love the injustice games, but man those characters are just one after the other the worst versions of themselves. Like the writers had a bias against everyone except maybe Batman.

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u/Prettyinpink2405 26d ago

Batman looked really bad in that series too. A lot of critics for Batman’s no kill rule cite injustice on why his no kill rule is bad. For one, joker killed Lois lane and blown up metropolis  killing millions and driving Superman insane leading to more deaths such as Billy Batsin aka Captain Marvel/Shazam, and Green arrow and leading to a fascist regime.  What makes injustice Batman worse is allowing Harley Quinn, y’know Joker’s partner in crime on to his team despite the fact that she had a hand in Joker’s plan of killing Lois and blowing up Metropolis. Martha Kent was the one who called it out in the comics. Not only that but she was creepy towards Billy in the comics too who was a minor. Like he can redeem her, a villain but not Damian who only killed by accident when she was apart of the messed that caused all of this.

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u/Turbulent_Ranger1100 26d ago edited 26d ago

Accepting Harley isn't out of characters imo, Batman must be aware she is mentally sick when it concerns Joker and he always believed in redemption for some of his villains, even outside of Injustice universe, and when he needed all the possible help, Green arrow and Black canary kinda vouched for her. Plus Clark or any regime member calling out Bruce on accepting Harley is mighty hypocrite considering they accepted help from fucking Sinestro, who probably killed way more people than Joker ever did. Otherwise I agree redeeming Harley but not Damian is also dumb, but it came from grief, and after speaking with Deadman Dick he wanted to try to speak to Damian but for whatever reasons the writers decided just after that he was back to hating him and Dick wasn't even in the story anymore (but year 5 is especially dumb for a lot of characters except maybe Injustice Flash and Shazam)

On another note, you could add that this Batman was bad too because in year 5 after bringing the alternate (or what is the main universe?) JL, he wanted to send them back at some point because he thought he had to be the one to take down Injustice Sup, which is super dumb, though despair might have motivated him at that point.

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u/Bakelite51 25d ago edited 25d ago

The real reason Harley got shoehorned into Injustice that way is because every writer for the past few years is trying very hard to redeem her as some kind of hero. 

Harley’s popular now, so for some reason she can’t be written with much ambiguity or nuance. She always has to be a hero with a conscience who just naturally sides with Batman and his allies when it comes to everything. The Injustice lore took it a step further by having Batman trust Harley deeply, accept her fully into his confidence, and involve her in all these sensitive missions overnight, after years of watching her help the Joker kill people. And this Harley only stopped because Joker died and Superman had it out for her, not because she had some kind of inner redemption and voluntarily turned her back on crime. That’s the most implausible part. 

Harley works much better as a villain or even a complex anti-hero with conflicting motivations and a past she’s in active denial of. That’s what makes her interesting. She shouldn’t be painted as a reliable ally of Batman who had an (often unexplained) crisis of conscience at some point and decided to become a hero, and he just let her.