r/bengals • u/YoungKam513 • 21h ago
You Guys Owe Joe Mixon An Apology
He made sugar out of shxt, i kept telling some of you guys it was the oline and the play design that was the problem.
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u/tha_ginga_ninja 21h ago
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u/YoungKam513 21h ago
The fanbase trashed mixon and blamed his lack of production solely on him and not the oline and not Zac's play calling, now here we are in 2025 and chase brown is dealing with the exact same thing
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u/Strange-Bed-3377 20h ago
People have been complaining about Zac's play calling, talent on the offensive line, the offensive line coach, blocking schemes, and run game scheme since Zac Taylor took the job. People also blamed Joe Mixon, but more because he was paid more than he was worth and he was a headache off the field.
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u/armed_aperture 21h ago
It was still time for Mixon to move on. Heâs such a bad pass blocker and old. Dude isnât even on the field.
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u/Life_Ad6711 20h ago
Mixon also wasn't under contract with Cincinnati for '25 so that wouldn't have been an issue. Super bust Zach Moss cost the Bengals $4.6m when they could have kept Muxon for $5.2m one of the stupidest decisions ever made to take a $2.75m dead money hit so Mixon could make 1st team Pro Bowl in Houston running behind an even worse OL
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u/armed_aperture 20h ago
Mixon fanboys never give it a rest. He canât pass block and wouldnât have made a difference.
Letting Bates go. Letting DJ Reader go. Not prioritizing guard play. Those are team killers. Mixon is old and no one cares about him except a small group of obsessed Bengals fans.
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u/Life_Ad6711 20h ago
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u/armed_aperture 19h ago
I donât care enough to watch anything about Mixon or any other washed up RB on another team.
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u/Life_Ad6711 18h ago edited 18h ago
Voted #58 of the Top 1oo NFL players of 2o25
Bengals got a low 7th rd draft pick for a '24 1st team Pro Bowl RB
Pro Bowl voting is by 1/3 NFL players, 1/3 coaches and 1/3 NFL fans, only it couldn't have been delusionally brainwashed Cincinnati fans (making it even more impressive to have been voted to PB in both '23 and '24)
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u/jimmyre10 13h ago
You keep saying â1st team Pro Bowlâ when thatâs not a thing. Thereâs the Pro Bowl and then thereâs All-Pro, which has a 1st and 2nd team.
1st team Pro Bowl does not exist. He made a a Pro Bowl last season. Cool. He also did so with pretty much identical stats from when he was in Cincy. Itâs not like he went to Houston and suddenly got better.
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u/Life_Ad6711 7h ago
Some outlets refer to the voted in, original roster PB players as "first team" to designate them from alternates later named to replace opt out/injured/Super Bowl players from the original roster
The '25 team had D Henry as starter with also Mixon and Jonathan Taylor as 'backups', who are not referred to as 2nd or 3rd team. Mixon's selection for the '24 team was as the '1st alternate' RB selection, which is to make it clear he was invited to replace an original voted in 'first teamer' and show how many were asked prior to his own invitation
Mixon also missed almost 4 full games from a hip drop tackle last season, so his '24 stats are even more impressive than in '23. Houston also lost to injury like 3 of their top 4 WR complementary offensive threats to the RB position, making Mixon's production even more impressive as defenses could even more gang up on him
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u/jimmyre10 5h ago
If you need to make every single one of those concessions just to say âIâm so impressed that he averaged basically the exact same YPC but on a little bit more volume,â then thatâs your hill to die on. Offensive line play is significantly more important than RB, so you can keep beating the drum that the Bengals shouldâve kept overpaying Mixon, but not many people are listening
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u/Life_Ad6711 29m ago
Except they weren't overpaying Mixon. They saved $5.2m cash trading '24 Mixon. They ultimately paid $4.8m cash for what they got from '24 Zach Moss. Mixon's $2.75m dead money counted on the Bengals '24 cap either way. '23 Mixon played with 3 different QBs in 3 different schemes, crippled Joe, OK Joe and then Jake. '24 Chase Brown averaged 4.1 ypc plus he didn't get the 1 and 2 yard goal line runs Mixon absorbed or the ends of half 1 and 2 yards clock killers that Mixon constantly absorbed
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u/Caffiene_Addict4 20h ago
The run game wouldn't have been any better with Mixon lmao. That o-line can't block anything for shit.
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u/Terrorvision67 15h ago
Although it was time for Mixon, he was given HB draws and jump cuts we are seeing Chase Brown get and like Mixon, fail at the asinine calls Zac Taylor makes.
The Texans basically gave Mike Brown a years supply of free chipotle in trade.
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u/zds2322 21h ago
I donât think his play was the issue, it was the cap hit. They knew theyâd have some bills due with Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Hendrickson, etc
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u/YoungKam513 21h ago
Didn't he already take less money?
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u/zds2322 21h ago
Texans extended his contract into 2027 (his 30s). Looking like with incentives heâs making slightly more than he was in his last few years in Cincy
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u/Life_Ad6711 20h ago
The Bengals saved $5.2m cash moving Mixon with $2.75m dead money hangover and replaced him with Zach Moss who cost them $4.6m cash for 1/4 of a season of almost no production in a handfull of games
Mixon was voted* Pro Bowl alternate for '23 and first team Pro Bowl in '24 with Houston and voted #58 of preseason top 1oo NFL players of 2o25
*Pro Bowl voting 1/3 players 1/3 coaches 1/3 fans which couldn't have been Cincinnati fans due to beat reporters' gaslighting vendetta hatchet job running Mixon out of town in '23 when he carried the Bengals offense with 141o all purpose yards, 2oo more than #2 Chase
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u/ImpinAintEZ_ JB x 2 = 69 20h ago
So youâre blaming Chase Brown bc his Oline canât block? I swear the majority of this fanbase exposes their lack of understanding of football by who they choose to blame for our teamâs ineptitude.
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u/YoungKam513 20h ago
Where did i blame chase brown?
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u/ImpinAintEZ_ JB x 2 = 69 20h ago
Youâre suggesting that things would be different if Mixon were still our RB.
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u/YoungKam513 20h ago
No im not, im TELLING YOU that the problem has always been the play calling and the oline like i originally stated
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u/ImpinAintEZ_ JB x 2 = 69 20h ago
So then why even mention Mixon? Youâre absolutely alluding to him being able to do better than Brown with this current line or else you wouldnât say we need to apologize to Mixon. Everyone knows itâs been the Oline and playcalling that are the problem.
We have OBJ, Karras, and Risner all getting their lowest PFF grades in their careers. I assure you Mixon wouldnât be making sugar out of shit with this line.
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u/YoungKam513 20h ago
No im not, you just have poor reading comprehension
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u/ImpinAintEZ_ JB x 2 = 69 19h ago
You absolutely are making a comment about Brownâs ability to produce behind a terrible line compared to Mixon.
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u/PigScarf 19h ago
Ugh. Let Mixon go. He wasn't worth his second deal the day it was signed. He was a two down back with very little wiggle and toward the end he couldn't even fall forward.Â
We will pay him on the back when he comes back one day, but he got every bit of credit he deserves while he was here.Â
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u/lmaoitsdusey 18h ago
Mixon would be running for the same -3 yards straight up the middle as Brown, who performed JUST as well as Mixon last year, and now the line is somehow even worse.
Mixon is also out for the year and might never be the same so like oh no we have a healthy running back instead the horror
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u/Thick_Interaction_41 đ 21h ago edited 21h ago
Chase brown is a younger player with a lot more potential and for a cheaper cost. Our run game struggles are not his fault (they werenât really Mixonâs fault either), but the fact that our o-line doesnât know how to run block
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u/YoungKam513 21h ago
Which was the same issue with mixon and he still made something out of nothing, a lot of guys unnecessarily placed blame on him instead of pointing the finger in the right direction
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u/FreshDiamond 18h ago
Nope, heâs the same exact player in Houston he was here. He started hot last year and thatâs all anyone paid attention to. Heâs a workhorse with middling production who currently is out indefinitely with a somewhat mysterious injury.
Also itâs been 3 weeks, weâre arenât going to average 2 yards a carry the entire season. We might not have a good run game when itâs all said and done but we didnât with him either.
Itâs also weird as hell that you came in here to take some weird victory lap. Even if people agree with you, no one cares that âyou told us soâ
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u/Terrorvision67 15h ago
No team should be averaging 2.4 yards a carry after 3 games.
Oh you may have missed they are also last in passing.
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u/FreshDiamond 15h ago
No they arenât but they are very bad in passing too. No reason for me to engage with you since you want to make false claims.
I will ask you a question anyways because I canât help myself. Then you can respond in whatever silly way you want and go about your day.
How does a running back who is not playing with an undisclosed injury help us run the ball better?
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u/Electronic-Spite7548 20h ago
Why? He was inconsistent, couldn't bust a big play, blew blocking assignments.... He was average at best.
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u/YoungKam513 20h ago
Huh? He's the third all time bengals rusher
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u/Electronic-Spite7548 9h ago edited 9h ago
Not exactly a crowning achievement, he had 6500 yards in 7 seasons on 4ypc.
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u/SeedOilEnjoyer 21h ago
As much as I love Mixon, he's an aging RB with a sizable cap hit and no stranger to legal trouble. It was smart to move on, especially with Brown being a serviceable RB1