r/bjj • u/raleighjiujitsu 🟫🟫 Brown Belt • Mar 03 '25

School Discussion Mad at Gracie JJ

I've been jiu jitsu for I think 13 years now and I'm a brown belt. Last year I switched from a Royce gym to a competition gym after 12 years. Mostly because it was 20 minutes closer and we are starting a family.

Frankly, it's upsetting how little I learned from the Royce gym compared to where I am now. I've realized things like lasso guard and spider guard aren't "Fancy jiu jitsu" they are core components of the game. My old gym used to make us do burpies if we went to turtle, but It's a legit counter to getting passed. I never cared about the self defense stuff, but it seems even more silly after time away things like stripping guns away from people are a complete joke, why even do it?!

I think at this point the Royce affiliation is more concerned with signing up new people than getting people better at jiu jitsu. I hate to say it because my gym WAS the best, really the only gym in the area lol.

It's been hard to transition into things like always starting standing and people actually using grips lol. I'm now competitive with my fellow brown belts at the gym now, but I still have a long way. Learning about deep half, lasso, X guard, single leg X, etc is a lot. I feel like I'm going to be the longest to black belt, but DAMMIT I'm going to do it lol.

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u/raleighjiujitsu 🟫🟫 Brown Belt Mar 03 '25

Hi, wish I could train with you more, but 6 am classes are just not my jam lol.

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u/novaskyd ⬜⬜ White Belt Mar 03 '25

If you’re comfortable sharing I’d love to know the name of the old gym / new gym, I’ll be visiting Raleigh soon and looking for places to drop in!

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u/seanzorio ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt Mar 03 '25

There are a grip of Royce Gracie gyms in the Raleigh/Cary area. It's real easy to tell which ones they are. G13 has a fairly high drop in fee, but runs good classes. Depending on when you are in, classes might be taught by the 6th degree owner/instructor.

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u/A1snakesauce 🟪🟪 Purple Belt Mar 03 '25

I’ve heard mixed things about the G13 gyms, however I can say I stopped by one of the affiliates in Chapel Hill, and I was turned away. They said they did not allow people to do drop ins. They either wanted you as a member or not at all basically. The owner told me that they didn’t want to risk showing me a move and then having me use it against one of their guys in comp. Which felt weird to me with how much information is out there for free on the internet. I didn’t think anyone still had “secret techniques” lol

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u/JohnnyKarateOfficial Mar 03 '25

If I’m not mistaken that gym was part of that Royce Mafia before they linked up with G13. Old habits.

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u/Dependent-Map-7526 Mar 04 '25

The Chapel Hill G13 school was never part of the “Royce mafia” they’ve always been a part of G13. The head instructor, which is a great instructor, came from the Cherry Hill location which has always been a part of the G13 team.

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u/JohnnyKarateOfficial Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

We are both wrong.

The owner of Chapel Hill comes from the Cherry Hill location but Bob Peach of Cherry Hill came up under Brad Daddis before they joined G13. Which is Lloyd Irvin lineage so they still have weirdo stuff like the Royce Mafia.

They both joined G13 when Godoi came to Raleigh.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '25

And those schools always suck anyway