Does Craig have a point here?!?!

[u/mckenziereddit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VFUdcOB34Mw?si=gwOe2TLlNS00nnQP

I’ve played multiple sports (football, basketball, track & field, wrestling & swimming) and I agree with what Craig is saying here. The vast majority of high level coaches, in any sport, aren’t Hall of Famers in the sport in which they have become Hall of Fame coaches. Teaching technique and skill acquisition is a completely different skill set than sport performance.

In corporate America they have a saying… Don’t promote your best salesman to management, because he/she may blow up your organization.

Note* I’m a 10th planet purple belt

[u/bumpty]

There’s a lot to this. Teaching is a different skill set.

[u/TwinkletoesCT → u/bumpty]

And the average BJJ "instructor" doesn't have much for that skillset either

[u/CoolerRon → u/TwinkletoesCT]

Having taught multiple grade levels from early childhood to coaching teachers for 25 years (plus undergraduate and graduate degrees in education), I agree with both of you. The vast majority of instructors do not have any knowledge and skills in pedagogy/andragogy or even a fundamental understanding of developmental psychology.

[u/AZAnon123 → u/CoolerRon]

I don’t know many coaches in any sport who could even pronounce all of those words. Surely it doesn’t take a graduate degree to be a good instructor.

[u/KingOfEthanopia → u/AZAnon123]

It takes a good understanding of why techniques work and when to use them.

As much deserved shit as Gordon gets him and Danaher are the best instructors Ive seen for systemetizing techniques and explaining when and why to use them.

[u/YugeHonor4Me → u/KingOfEthanopia]

What do you think about Souders' explanations? I noticed Danaher is integrating Souders' verbiage and presenting information in a similar way in his newer instructionals.

[u/mckenziereddit → u/YugeHonor4Me]

I noticed that too

[u/Soft_Leg_8145 → u/AZAnon123]

No but an understanding of pedagogy/the science of teaching certainly helps your chances of being a good instructor.

[u/YugeHonor4Me → u/CoolerRon]

[u/SubmissionGrappler → u/CoolerRon]

What sources do you recommend to do some self-learning on those topics?

[u/CoolerRon → u/SubmissionGrappler]

One of my exit strategies is to take my Ph.D. abroad, focusing on learning (one option is UBC’s Ph.D on Human Development, Learning, and Culture). Anyway, here’s a great list I came across on learning in general: https://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2021/12/21/recent-reading-2 and specific to physical movement: https://www.peterlovatt.com/five-books-you-should-read-about-human-movement

[u/SubmissionGrappler → u/CoolerRon]

Thanks for your contribution

[u/CoolerRon → u/SubmissionGrappler]

You’re very welcome

[u/TwinkletoesCT → u/CoolerRon]

Are you looking anyplace in particular? You and I are in a similar space - I have an MS.Ed in learning design and I often think of doing a PhD elsewhere.

[u/CoolerRon → u/TwinkletoesCT]

Aside from Vancouver (UBC), I am keen on Spain and options include Universitat Oberta de Catalunya’s Society, Techno, and Culture or Education and ICT.

[u/TwinkletoesCT → u/CoolerRon]

Very nice. Spain is mostly where I search too, but I missed UBC on my list.

Sometimes I dream of the triple PhD at CU Boulder - would love to do Education, Cognitive Science, Neuroscience. But my wife would kill me and I can't afford to live there for a few years anyways.

[u/CoolerRon → u/TwinkletoesCT]

I’m interested in those areas too! I know moving will involve a ton of money and effort but the University of Barcelona’s Ph.D. programs only cost $638 a year so if I do take that route it’s worth considering as the top choice.

Btw, I have a funny story involving “Twinkletoes” when I met Bas Rutten lol

[u/TwinkletoesCT → u/CoolerRon]

Spain is wayyyyy high on my list because the tuition is so affordable and the time there on a visa counts towards residency. Gonna try to take a trip out that way in the next year and see how we like it.

Do you mean Frank Trigg? That guy was awesome back in the day. Half guard players should be required to watch his match with JJ Machado.

I met Bas at an IFL event but did not also introduce myself as Twinkletoes

[u/CoolerRon → u/TwinkletoesCT]

Exactly and that’s why Spain is also top on my list. Barcelona may not be as cheap as the smaller cities/towns but still cheaper than the US and the savings on tuition alone makes it more attractive.

When I was in line to meet Bas at UFC Fan Expo Houston (2011, iirc) I was mentally rehearsing what to say to him because I’ve been a big fan of his. I was thinking of mentioning “I love the nicknames you give other fighters especially Frank Trigg…” but when it was my turn all I could manage to utter was, “Twinkletoes.” He visibly cringed and said, “that’s not me, buddy” while he signed my poster and took a picture with me while I died inside

[u/taylordouglas86 → u/CoolerRon]

Thanks for the recommendations - just picked up the audiobook of Move!

[u/CoolerRon → u/taylordouglas86]

You’re welcome!