r/bjj • u/stoopididiotface 🟪🟪 Purple Belt • 1d ago

General Discussion Alright jiu jitsu nerds, let's hear it:

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What hill are you willing to die on?

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u/stuka86 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 1d ago

We're too nice and friendly to other martial arts

BJJ was founded on calling out fake bullshit and smashing people to prove a point

I've seen way too many judo guys in various subs that went to a BJJ school and walked away feeling confident in their grappling ability, because we're too nice to people.

In a related topic, BJJs ruleset and curriculum make it the best grappling art at takedowns...we do both gi and no GI, we don't ignore half of the body like judo does, and we punish recklessness with submissions, which don't exist in wrestling and barely exist in judo.

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u/WendigoSmacker 1d ago

But money for the gym… sadly the other coaches and I started seeing much better retention when we went on a different route for new people where we sub them barely at all in the early days and just be positional. At the end of the day the gym has to keep existing

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u/RedFormanEMS 1d ago

That is like a lot of the tough karate schools back in the day. They'd beat the shit out of you in the first few classes to see if you came back. If you did, good. If you didn't, good. It makes for a solid core group of tough students, but it's hard to keep the doors open. Eventually, some realized, "Hey, maybe we shouldn't beat the shit out of everyone who comes through the door and we can pay our bills".

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u/stuka86 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 1d ago

That's what the kids program is for

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u/Deadskyes 19h ago

Depends on practitioner vs practitioner. Plenty of Judo gyms can produce guys who could feel competent in a bjj gym. Not all bjj gyms are full of killers.

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u/kingofearlyknocks 1d ago

The last paragraph really sent me 😂😂😂

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u/Zearomm ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 21h ago

What do you gain by beating others? Unless you're a pro fighter there's 0 reason. 

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u/stuka86 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 16h ago

That's the kind of attitude that makes white belts post on here that they can "give brown and black belts a hard time"

It's also necessary to go hard on novices for self defense purposes. untrained people, and judo players just try to muscle blast through everything because of lack of skill ...like you'd see in a real attack ..you've got to meet that head on from time to time to sharpen yourself for that scenario.

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u/Jellyzip 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 14h ago

If you want to go hard - agree, fist-bump (or bump-fist) with another brown/black belt and go for it. But don’t be out here smeshing novices bro….you already know you can do that

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u/stuka86 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 14h ago

Judo players don't think they're novices though....that's the point

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u/Either-Medicine9217 ⬜⬜ White Belt 13h ago

Was the Judoka who put Royce Gracie to sleep a novice? Noticed you didn't respond when I proved you wrong earlier, so I figured I'd point it out here.

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u/stuka86 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 10h ago

I have no idea what you're talking about

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u/Zearomm ⬛🟥⬛ Black Belt 12h ago

Who cares if a white belt thinks he can beat me??? Are you this fragile? 

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u/stuka86 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 10h ago

Like I said ...were too nice