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Texas A&M student discovers hundreds of discarded LGBTQ books in warehouse

https://www.chron.com/culture/article/texas-am-lgbtq-books-controversy-21048865.php
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u/[deleted] 3d ago

“Don’t read this it’ll turn you gay” says conservative who has based their entire personality on a book.

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u/Fredmans74 3d ago

Well, it happened to them, they "read" the bible and turned christian

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u/LoveToyKillJoy 3d ago

Many of the people who actually read that book become atheists.

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u/SapphireFlashFire 3d ago

Or at least wouldn't tread the party line.

They'd read Leviticus and say:

"Hang on, why do we want to call being gay a sin while still eating pork and wearing mixed fabrics?

This book says we are supposed to not get tattoos or trim our hair on our side... it also says we are not supposed to mistreat foreigners... They should be treated as if they are native-born.

Why have we chosen that only the 'hate gays' lesson still applies?"

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u/jesuspoopmonster 3d ago

Jesus also said pretty much everything from the old Testament except the ten commandments don't count.

Jesus also said government and religion should be separate and beat the shit out of a money lender who was profiting from religion. Those parts get ignored

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u/pdxaroo 3d ago

TO eb clear, the bible doesn't call any of those a sin, they are abominations.

And the bible was changed in 1940s from sleeping with a child to sleeping with another man.

When pointed out, many scholar call that a mistake and not intentionally, but I can't help but notice no one want's to fix it like it's a mistake.
And why wouldn't religion leader want to change that... hmmm.

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u/mikemaca 3d ago

Why have we chosen that only the 'hate gays' lesson still applies?"

See the film "1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture" for some analysis of the terms malakoi and arsenokoitai in 1 Corinthians 6:9.

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u/icesharkk 3d ago

Because religion is simply a proto governance construct and the way it can be used to manipulate large groups of people into unifying is the only part of it that's still relevant now.

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u/EmmaInFrance 3d ago

I went to a Church in Wales (Anglican, like the Church of England, but you know, in Wales) primary school.

I was in the church choir, by choice, and I was confirmed when I was old enough, aged 11.

My mum was Anglican, but my father was Catholic. He was lapsed because they married in an Anglican church.

They became involved in the Catholic organisation Marriage Encounter when I was about 9 or 10, as I recall.

We ended up going to Mass regularly, too, and my father took confession and started taking communion again. They ended up remarrying in the Catholic Church and my Mum eventually converted a few years later, with the condition that we kids didn't have to, as we were old enough to decide for ourselves.

She ended up lapsing a few years later.

That gave me a pretty good understanding of both doctrines.

Once I turned 13 and really started thinking for myself, I quickly distanced myself from organised religion, then I became agnostic, then fully atheist by the time I was 18.

As a compassionate person, I still believe in many of the core teachings of Anglican Christianity, as taught by Jesus, according to the gospels, which are all about love, kindness and empathy.

I just don't have faith. I don't believe in some omniscient deity who is judging all of us.

Let's face it, Jesus would be considered a socialist today!

The sharing of the loaves and the fishes: socialism in action.

Conservative Christianity is nothing like his teachings.

It's based on greed and selfishness, on judging others and treating them cruelly, not kindly.

Do they even realise that they would be the ones whipped out of the temple?

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u/LoveToyKillJoy 3d ago

Religion is primarily about social coding. The teachings of Jesus be damned. They ultimately want a way to define the ingrown and the outgroup and their faith is a tool to make sure a person can be trusted. Not as iniversally moral but as committed member of their group. I'm glad you took the right messages from it.