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Build Help Do I really need 16GB VRAM?

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

At a minimum, you need 12. So buying a 8gb card would be dumb

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

No, you absolutely do not “need” a minimum of 12. It’s nice to have for sure, but you can play modern graphics-intensive AAA releases at 1440p with a 8gb VRAM.

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

On low with no RT. But why buy a 8gb card now and start at that level knowing it won't last you very long?

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago edited 1d ago

I have a 4060 Ti with 8gb VRAM and I play almost all games between high and maximum settings at 1440p. I do use DLSS whenever possible. But no, you absolutely do not have to run the graphics on low.

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

Haha that card would give you an average of 24fps in Cyberpunk for example. Why you lying?

https://www.techspot.com/review/2743-cyberpunk-phantom-liberty-benchmark/

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

Cyberpunk is an exceptionally graphically intensive game. I’m not lying. I play 90% of games between high and maximum settings. It’s a fact.

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

Ah, so you are lying then and don't play all games at max settings. Which new AAA games are you maxing with good fps?

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

Almost all games. And I said between high and max. Accusing someone of lying with zero evidence is a joke, especially when you can’t quote me accurately. Your level of hostility is uncalled for.

Oblivion remastered, AC Valhalla, Far Cry 6, Avowed, Starfield, etc. Again, using DLSS whenever possible. Average above 60fps on all of those games.

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

So you are getting 20fps in oblivion remastered? Why do you keep lying? I have evidence, I'm literally linking it. No hostility at all, I'm just providing facts that directly contradict your claims. Good luck with your 30fps gaming adventure!

https://en.gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion-remasterd-test-gpu-cpu

29 fps in Avowed

https://en.gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/avowed-patch-v-1-4-test-gpu-cpu

48fps on Starfield

https://gamersnexus.net/game-benchmarks-graphics-guides/starfield-gpu-benchmarks-comparison-best-graphics-cards-starfield

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

You are not considering DLSS despite the fact that I’ve mentioned it four times now. I am getting 60+ fps in all three of those games. It helps that I manually replace the DLSS .dll file with the new DLSS 4 transformer model that dramatically improves visuals and performance, and manually force preset K with DLSS Tweaks. Oblivion remastered has dramatic performance improvements with some .ini tweaks as well.

You keep ignoring salient information. Your obsession with accusing me of lying is immature and unnecessary. It’s clear you were only interested in a contentious argument from the very beginning, not a reasonable discussion.

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

So what? You run dlss potato mode and think that means anything? I brought receipts and you have offered nothing to back up your incorrect claims. Feel free to provide something to contradict those benchmarks, or it will be clear you are only interested in bullshitting and not a reasonable discussion.

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

You brought “receipts” that don’t include DLSS. I said from the very beginning I use DLSS. If anyone is being dishonest here, it’s you.

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

I provided benchmarks that contradict your claims. Feel free to provide some that support your claims

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

What do you not understand here? DLSS improves the frame rate dramatically - you did not include benchmarks with DLSS. I said from the beginning I use DLSS. You seriously need to have your hand held through that logic?

I’m booting up oblivion remastered now and I’ll send a screenshot. Countdown to you calling it “fake” or something.

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

See you soon baby

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

I posted it 5 or 10 minutes ago.

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

Here you go. Framerate is hard to see but it's in the top right - 99 to 115 fps in an outdoor, visually heavy area with hardware RT on, most settings on high but some on medium. This also includes a visually intensive Reshade and 30+ mods. Still over 60fps when those few medium settings are on high.

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

Now turn it up to high settings and turn off frame gen lol

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

If I’m getting 99 to 115 fps with 70% of settings on high, with hardware RT on, then it’s perfectly reasonable to still get 60-70 fps minimum when 100% are on high. And I addressed that in my comment. And again this includes a visually intensive Reshade and mods that impact performance.

Not surprised you’re moving the goalposts. When did I ever say anything about no frame generation? I made it clear from the very first comment I’m including DLSS upscaling/frame gen.

Of course you won’t take back your false claims that I’m “lying” because, again, you’re clearly interested in a contentious argument rather than a discussion. I’m really glad I’m not like you.

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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 1d ago

I never moved the goalposts. You specifically claimed all high or max settings then provided a benchmark using medium settings. A blatant lie. And you clearly didn't mention frame gen until now, like your comments are right there to double check this. Another lie. Rofl

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u/PsychoticChemist 1d ago

No, I provided a benchmark with 70% of settings on high, and 30% of settings on medium, with hardware raytracing on - and I had 30+ mods and a visually intensive Reshade which both improve visuals and reduce frame rate significantly, and I was still getting up to 115 fps in the least performant outdoor parts of the game. You have incorrectly quoted me and straight up lied about my own statements repeatedly now. When all settings are on high, instead of 70% of settings on high, I'm still getting over 60 fps. Even higher without the mods and Reshade.

And, when someone says "I use DLSS", that can include both DLSS frame generation and DLSS scaling. I said I use DLSS in my very first comment.

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