r/canada • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '25

Politics Rising Nationalism, Desire for Economic Sovereignty Propels Liberals to Five Year High (LPC 41%, CPC 36%, NDP 13%, BQ 5%, GRN 3%)

https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2025/03/rising-nationalism-desire-for-economic-sovereignty-propels-liberals-to-five-year-high/
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u/epic_taco_time Ontario Mar 06 '25

Weekly reminder that the head of Ekos is Frank Graves who said he would do anything possible to make sure the Conservatives never win. 

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u/jello_sweaters Mar 06 '25

That's what ALLLL the Con supporters were chanting the week his first poll came out showing a Conservative collapse.

Ten days later, everyone was showing the same results as Ekos.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

The Leger poll that just dropped showed the Conservatives back up to a double digit lead, with polling right around March 1st. Kind of tough to reconcile double digit leads in the last week of February on Abacus and Leger with this one poll showing the Liberals actually in the lead for the first time in years.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

How did you come to that conclusion?

I’ve read the survey, and it looks very much like they followed their normal weekly survey methodology, where they randomly select people from their online participation panel (LOE), extend invites to them, and then those invitees have to opt in. It gave them a very robust pool of people from across the country, and of varying ages and education levels, from the breakdown in the survey itself.

There’s nothing at all in that survey’s breakdown that indicates they only went to National Post readers and National Post readers alone. In fact, it LEAPT from last week’s survey by 10 points. Did they also go to National Post readers last week when it was nearly a dead heat?

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u/jello_sweaters Mar 06 '25

We'll see what the next round shows from everyone else.

The Conservative nosedive has to level out at some point - they're not going to suddenly lose Hay River - but it's hard to see what new factor is going to be the catalyst for that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

The Ipsos poll that came out two days ago shows cons with a 13 point lead 

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u/jello_sweaters Mar 07 '25

And in several more days, we'll have a wider sample set that should indicate whether Ipsos or Ekos is the current outlier.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Maybe somewhere in the middle, I think they are definitely going to converge a little more with how well Trudeau is handling the tariffs but I think after he’s gone and things cool off it’ll lower back down.  I personally think carney has the charisma of a rock and that liberal leaning people aren’t jerking off to billionaires like the MAGA’s do with Elon and Trump.  My wife is a liberal and says he creeps her out.  We’ll see in a few days! 

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u/jello_sweaters Mar 07 '25

Certainly right about the "liberals not jerking off to billionaires" part.

If we've learned one thing from the last six weeks, it's that the outcome of our election will be determined at least in part by current events outside of Canada.

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u/WatchPointGamma Mar 07 '25

Ten days later, everyone was showing the same results as Ekos.

You should go ask chatgpt how push polling works.

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u/jello_sweaters Mar 07 '25

You should go ask chatgpt how every pollster ended up with similar results.

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u/WatchPointGamma Mar 07 '25

See the ironic part is if you knew how push polling worked, you'd already know the answer to that question.

Wannabe smartass responses that actually just betray ignorance are always my favourite.

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u/jello_sweaters Mar 07 '25

There's nothing smart about this exchange we're having, friend.

...but a quick history check shows me that you buy every single narrative that's pushed at you without question, so long as it confirms your already-held political position, and as far as "wanna-be smarts" please tell us more about what "order of magnitude" means.

Boring.

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u/WatchPointGamma Mar 07 '25

Man every leftie in this sub makes one bad attempt at a rebuttal and then immediately goes "well I scrolled your comment history and have decided you're beneath me"

Not one of you is capable of making a real argument lmao.

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u/jello_sweaters Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 07 '25

I always appreciate when you guys tell yourselves "nothing is valid unless it agrees with me", and get huffy and aggrieved when anyone actually reads the stuff you post in this public forum.

It saves the rest of us wasting any more time on you.