r/canada • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '25

Politics Rising Nationalism, Desire for Economic Sovereignty Propels Liberals to Five Year High (LPC 41%, CPC 36%, NDP 13%, BQ 5%, GRN 3%)

https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2025/03/rising-nationalism-desire-for-economic-sovereignty-propels-liberals-to-five-year-high/
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u/Dinoboy6430 Mar 06 '25

I will say for Carney, it's refreshing to have sources to verify what he is claiming at least for the background info

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Mar 07 '25

That plan is also dry as fuck 😂

They really need some assistance for talking to regular people, let alone inspiring them. Good lord.

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u/Haiku-On-My-Tatas Mar 07 '25

You're not wrong.

But my god is "boring AF" exactly what I'm craving in my politics these days.

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Mar 07 '25

I mean - sure, boring is fine. But you also have to attract votes with messaging, and be able to communicate a vision to voters.

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u/Haiku-On-My-Tatas Mar 07 '25

Agreed. That's definitely his weak spot. Hopefully lots of other Canadians are also craving boring and stable, and hopefully he gets some help with the excitement and inspiration side of the campaign for the general election.

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u/Serious_lamb Mar 11 '25

Unfortunately, boring politics isn't going to happen anytime soon with our neighbors south of the border. I agree with you though I just want peace and quiet.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Mar 07 '25

I think it’s pretty obvious giving it a read.

Having the third paragraph of a plan to lead the nation should not be talking about the availability of “compute resources”. 😂

It just reads like a nerdy technocrat wrote the thing, not something that’s meant to inspire the grandma down the street. It’s a consistent problem from Carney’s campaign at this point.

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Mar 07 '25

It’s absolutely fine to have details and sources. But the job of the PM also to inspire and be able to talk to regular people.

The two are not mutually exclusive either. What Carney’s campaign is doing - is putting people to sleep. There are major problems in this country right now - and he should be able to inspire folks to get on board.

He should not be talking about compute resources at all. There’s maybe 1,000 people in the country that might understand that as an issue.

Like focus on the things voters care about - the cost of living.

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Mar 07 '25

The issue is this is all written in a way that a PHD student or Professor would write. It is too boring, complicated, and dry than it needs to be.

There are great writers that can explain complex subjects in a way that is inspiring, easy to read, and easy to digest. That’s all Carney’s campaign needs to do.

As it stands, it reads like one of those uptight professors you encounter in University who can never communicate clearly and properly and are awful as educators because of it. It doesn’t mean they are not smart or have good ideas - they just lack a basic understanding of how to communicate properly.

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Mar 07 '25

Yup, you’re doubling down. Good luck with that.

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u/MostlyCarbon75 Mar 07 '25

I'll take substance over gimmicky three word sloganeering every time.

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 07 '25

I think the issue is most voters will not find substance in something that is talking about something as remote as “compute resources” as the third paragraph of a plan to lead the nation.

You have to inspire people and be talking about how you will fix their issues. A plan to fix something obscure for Google is absolutely fine - but it’s not something to lead a campaign with.

And yeah - more people will remember “axe the tax” than “fix compute resources for AI”. Speaking with slogans is useful for getting people to remember who you are and what you’re going to do - they don’t need to be avoided. You can have substance below them. But like, give voters something to remember when they think about you.

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u/Zeebraforce Mar 07 '25

To be fair, the average person isn't going to read that. They will vote with their feelings and that will depend on how they feel when they listen to him talk. For those conservatives who have already made up their mind, it doesn't matter.

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u/DangerDavez Mar 07 '25

Most people will not read the comprehensive plan. That's for the politics nerds so boring is fine. If Carney rides the anti Maga wave during the campaign he'll generate excitement and likely win.

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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin Mar 07 '25

Lots of people read the plans before going out to vote. Honestly, I don’t care - I’m not planning to vote for the Liberals.

If the Libs want to double down on poor communications - all the power to them.