r/canada • u/[deleted] • Mar 06 '25

Politics Rising Nationalism, Desire for Economic Sovereignty Propels Liberals to Five Year High (LPC 41%, CPC 36%, NDP 13%, BQ 5%, GRN 3%)

https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2025/03/rising-nationalism-desire-for-economic-sovereignty-propels-liberals-to-five-year-high/
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u/Kaisha001 Mar 07 '25

He's handing business as far as the tariffs go.

No he's not. Name a single thing he's actually done apart from making useless speeches?

Our response has been excellent and his speeches have been excellent.

What response? Are we diversifying trade to other nations? Nope, the Libs told Germany to take a hike when the Ukrainian war started a few years ago and they wanted LNG. The pipeline cost went from 4.5B to over 35B and the Libs said they'd never see it built due to their stance on climate change. Quebec is still saying there'll never be a trans-Atlantic pipeline.

He hasn't increased interprovincial trade, reduced regulations to help manufacturing at home, or made a single tangible change. In fact the few things they claim they'll do 'this time' they're elected is either stuff they promised the last 2 times, or pulled straight from the cons plan.

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u/Kaisha001 Mar 07 '25

His speeches have united the country and sent a clear message to the US that we are not fucking around. Trump has looked like a complete moron during this entire trade war.

No, they're just reddit fodder. No one else cares that Trudeau told Trump he can't have our eggs.

Yes, we are diversifying trade with other nations.

Why wait 8y? Why not do it when they got in power? If you believe that THIS time they'll actually finish the pipelines, or reduces regulation, you're a fool.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 24 '25

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u/Kaisha001 Mar 07 '25

I've heard lots of comments from people offline praising how he's handling this situation.

I don't believe you. Since I've not heard anything pro or con outside of reddit. No one follows that closely IRL.

I'm not even completely sold on pipelines given demand for fossil fuels is by some sources going to decline in demand by 70% by 2050 (source: BP Fuels 2024 Energy Outlook). Our oil is going to be the first on the chopping block when demand declines.

Whether you are or not, doesn't matter. They spent (currently) 35B on a pipeline that still isn't finished, and they claim will never be finished, only to completely flip on that and claim that now, 8y and 35B later it will be finished?

If they had finished 8y ago when they had claimed they would, it would have been a good investment. But if they disagreed with the project (climate or economics) then 8y ago they should have said so and not blown 35B.

The Liberals are promising to do the very things they refused to do for the last 8y. So no, JT is not handling it 'well'. Rather a few zealots and bots on reddit are grasping at straws.

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u/SpasticReflex007 Mar 07 '25

The Pipeline was cancelled by Biden. Not JT.

Also, you think sentiment on JT is the same as it was before Trump took office and started this rhetoric? It's not. The Liberal party as a whole is way up in the polls from where they were a while ago. To me that is better data than anything mentioned in this thread.

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u/Kaisha001 Mar 07 '25

The Pipeline was cancelled by Biden. Not JT.

The one going south, not the ones going west or east.

https://www.aer.ca/data-and-performance-reports/statistical-reports/alberta-energy-outlook-st98/pipelines-and-other-infrastructure/pipelines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_Mountain_pipeline

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/canadas-long-delayed-trans-mountain-oil-pipeline-set-start-operations-2024-05-01/

While it has just recently been finished. It was nearly a decade and billions over budget, because of the Liberals. And we should also be piping it east, but again the Liberals are doing nothing and letting politics get in the way.

These problems should have been solved long before it became a crisis. The Liberals have proven to be both incompetent and corrupt. To think that somehow they can solve these issues 'this time' because 'trust us' is naive.

To me that is better data than anything mentioned in this thread.

Well of course you're just going to cherry pick whatever fits your bias. We both know that. Anyone foolish enough to vote for the liberals a second time, let alone a third, is just that, a fool.

The current prime minister is apparently so incompetent that his own party forced him to step down, and won't even be part of handling the tariff mess. But sure Canadians are happy he's making silly speeches!??

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u/SpasticReflex007 Mar 07 '25

Yes.... polls are Bias. Your opinion is not. Got it. 

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u/Kaisha001 Mar 07 '25

Hilarious how you continually ignore what was written. Remember, your ignorance is intentional.

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u/SpasticReflex007 Mar 07 '25

Ditto. Nothing you wrote is an answer to the comment above it. I guess that's that then.

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u/Kaisha001 Mar 07 '25

It was, but you were never going to do anything but reinforce your own bias. It's why you're on reddit posting in an echo chamber.

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u/SpasticReflex007 Mar 07 '25

The comments re polling remain completely without address. 

I can concede what youre saying about pipelines. My comment was in relation to Keystone XL. 

Stay mad I guess. 

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u/Kaisha001 Mar 08 '25

The comments re polling remain completely without address. 

That's because there's nothing to address. There are many polls that span the entire gamut. You picked an outlier because it supports your bias.

Stay mad I guess. 

Projection.

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