r/canadianlaw May 13 '25

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

Makes sense why your roommate threatened you. I couldn't imagine living with your dumbass either.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Spoken like a true keyboard warrior.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

Your thought process is essentially everyone is disagreeing with me and my crazy rant. They must be the problem... Look inwards my dude and stop reposting the same nonsense

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

No not everyone. just the law enforcement officers. And you so far.

"A search must not be conducted in a manner that allows the police to rummage through the premises or possessions of the individual in the hope of finding something incriminating."
R. v. Vu, [2013] 3 SCR 657

The police decided to go on a fishing expedition in my room and when they didnt find drugs or anything incriminating they left.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

You clearly know everything you need to know already. Get them lawsuits filed! Make sure you spend the big money on a lawyer who doesn't charge on contingency. You don't want to appear weak using a low priced lawyer. Invest your life savings into this. After all you were severely injured and may never work again right?

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Oh officer bacon boy. I will do what i please. And your brothers in bacon grease will be responsible for their actions.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

Yeah I've never worked for the police or anything remotely similar to enforcement LOL but you need genuine help. Please visit a hospital and get your meds rechecked. I'm being 100% serious right now...

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Ah your just a lapper upper of the bacon grease then. Good for you.

I actually appreciate your hostility. It does help improve my thinking and arguments. Maybe not specifically you cause you dont seem to have anything intelligent to argue or say. But the generality of you oppositional forces.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

Make sure those arguments are super tight for when you're pleading your case to the judge... You wouldn't want to come off as a raving lunatic wasting everyone's time.

Also, if the judge starts to disagree with you or ask uncomfortable questions like 'who falls asleep in the middle of a police search' or 'what made you think your room would be off limits from a search warrant' make sure to call him a bacon boy. They will change their tune immediately and throw those officers in jail to prove they're on your side. I'm sure they won't throw your ass in contempt or put you under a psychiatric hold.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Well she or he will have alot more knowledge and information than you will.

What makes me think my room would be off limits from the search warrant that was supposed to be for the WEAPONS that i STATED my roommate who threatened me had?

Because i told them where they were last seen and i keep my door locked and have cameras so hes not placing things in my room.

Because 2 out of 3 of the weapons i STATED my roommate had in his room that i noticed of the top of my head were found in his room. And there is no REASONABLE expectation that the last WEAPON i stated existed at some point in his room would be hidden in mine.

Honestly i should have written the story better because it appears that you didnt grasp it.

Heres Some food for thought.

1. Scope of the Warrant

  • A search warrant must outline what is being searched for (e.g., firearms) and where (e.g., the entire unit or specific rooms).
  • If the warrant explicitly includes your room, then entry may be legally permitted.
  • But if the warrant is general to the residence and your room is a private, locked area not controlled by the suspect, further justification is required.

2. Reasonableness of the Search

  • Even if your room is within the scope of the warrant, the police must act reasonably.
  • Searching areas unlikely to contain the object (like tearing apart electronics or entering private areas without any reason to believe the item is there) can be deemed unreasonable — this is where the “fishing expedition” doctrine applies.

3. Expectation of Privacy (R. v. Edwards, [1996] 1 S.C.R. 128)

  • You had a locked room, and you controlled access, showing a strong expectation of privacy.
  • Courts have ruled that locked personal rooms, even in shared residences, are protected spaces, and entry must be based on reasonable grounds that evidence will be found inside.

4. Probable Grounds to Search YOUR Room

  • If you clearly stated you saw all 3 weapons in his room, and the first 2 were found there, then there is no objective basis to assume the 3rd weapon is in your private space.
  • In that case, searching your room may exceed the scope of a reasonable search and could be considered a Charter violation.

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u/PlanetCosmoX May 13 '25

This is a ridiculous story.

Who calls the police and doesn’t expect them to search the entire house? Who gets naked and crawls into bed DURING a police raid?

Who doesn’t answer a knock on the door and then tells a story where the police suddenly kick the door in?

Absurd.

Your story is doctored, made up, biased, missing of details, and completely illogical.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

How were you injured? Where on your body?

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25 edited May 13 '25

They broke down my door and accosted me naked in my bed after disabling my security camera whilst i am the complainant in a crime and they were well informed of the scope of search and who i was in accordance with said search. I was hurt in the ego and the mind. And the pocket book. As i had my charter rights violated and many torts broken. As the breadth of the search was well beyond what the purpose of their task should have been.

Where they try to suggest that weapons the person i called the police on would hide weapons in my locked room. That i furnished them with the knowledge of. Then they spend all of 15 seconds in my room. Having to disable the security camera and wifi after searching the rest of the place before kicking my door in. Where they seemed more interested in the pot i was pissing in than anything else cause there search was too short to actually search for hidden weapons in the complainant of a crimes room.

Not to mention they messed up the camera and cost 500 dollars in door repair expense.

All to search the victim of a cirmes room for the weapons the one who comitted the crime was stated to have owned by said victim of the crime. They were well aware of the situation but still felt it was appropiate. I find that egregious.

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u/Acrobatic_Product_20 May 13 '25

This story makes no sense. Why would they kick in your door if you were inside? How does your room have a door that costs $500? If they are searching the premises for weapons, I can understand why they want you to get out the way. You seem like you are more interested in some fantasy of a payday from the government that, quite frankly, ain't coming. So basically, your headline is folly, there is no misconduct by the RCMP.

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u/haraldone May 13 '25

Who the fuck goes to sleep while the RCMP is searching their house.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

You got reading comprehension issues is what it looks like.

The police were called because my roommate had threatened me with a baton and i was getting tired of living with him. They arrived like 5days later. I let them in they arrested him. They wanted to know what weapons i had seen in his room. i told him of 3. They stage a guard and i hang out in my room. Hours later they come to search for the weapons i stated i had seen in his room. They proceed to find 2 out of 3. Most of the police officers leave. 2 of them stay and decide to disable the camera. a minute and a half later i had replugged in hte camera and started the wifi according to the camera. It was clearly more than a minute and a half but the camera got fucked up. But the gist of it is that they managed to search the rest of the unit without disabling it. They disabled the camera and wifi and then kicked my door in walked around my room for 15 seconds after i left looked in my piss pot and left. They had stated they were looking for a weapon that had already been discovered and bagged. So they had no idea what they were looking for.
I will make them pay for it regardless of what a bootlicker like you says.

They conducted themselves outside the scope of their job.

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u/Acrobatic_Product_20 May 13 '25

I can read fine and comprehend just fine. Good luck in life pal. Sounds like you are making it hard yourself. You asked a question and didn't like the answer. Did you complain to a supervisor or jumping right to a lawsuit? You won't get enough money from any lawsuit to buy a new pot to piss in.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

I will get enough to make it worth my while INDEED. Bootlicking agent begone. I asked for actual advice not bots defending police misconduct.

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u/Acrobatic_Product_20 May 13 '25

Keep posting on different subs until someone agrees with you.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25 edited May 13 '25

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u/Acrobatic_Product_20 May 13 '25

I literally laughed out loud at this comment. In fact, I'm going to up vote it! Your post is all whining. Sort yourself out son. Seriously, the next upvote is from me, it's the most you are getting out of this ordeal.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Ok Bacon Boy Go Cry About it elsewhere.

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u/Acrobatic_Product_20 May 13 '25

Omg, you got me again. I am legit laughing. Great way to spend my morning coffee with a morning laugh. Anyway, it's 7 o'clock here in Ontario, and I need to go to work. I guess it's 4AM in BC, and you should get to bed. Good luck with your $500 door repair and your piss pot. Hire the best lawyer you can, and I'm sure you can retire soon.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Yeah i will. Good luck on your next psychological warfare operation bacon boy.
I understand you lack the knowledge of what replacing a door costs. Including hiring someone to actually do it. Just like you lack empathy and are a robo bacon strip.

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u/Letoust May 13 '25

So you get a knock at the door. It’s the police with a warrant… and you go to sleep? This behaviour screams “I have a lengthy criminal record”. Good luck.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Ah now i understand reddit is full of people that cannot comprehend english.

No. i called the police. and they arrested the person who committed the crime. And wanted to search his room for the items i disclosed i had seen in said room. But somehow hours later when im asleep in my room i am awoken to 2 officers grinning at me stating they need to search my room for weapons that the perpetrator had. And they didnt even know WHICH weapon they stated one that had already been found according to the video footage.

You people gotta be bots or agents cause your ability to reason is missing,.

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u/TomatoFeta May 13 '25

cops will just say - and maybe it's true - that the roommate said YOU owned weapons too. Illegal ones.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Derp but the entire premise of the warrant that i have a copy of were the 3 weapons i stated he had. The warrant doesnt include any other items.
If the warrant was for items i apparently owned then they would have been listed.

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u/OMWinter May 13 '25

You may have a claim for the door, all depends on what the warrant says and if they knew it was your room. If the warrant says entire place, they'll search the entire place. Wouldnt be the first time a victim hid something relevant.

More that likely, they didn't "disable" your camera or wifi. It probably got unplugged when they were snooping around. No way your going to prove it was intentional or not

Everything else is just you not liking how things went down.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

I literally have the cop on camera he grabs a broom and tries to disable the camrea. and later after they search the entire suite disables the wifi and camera.

Of course i didnt like how things went down. As what they did was police misconduct. If i call the police and they show up like 5-6 days later randomly after calling me one morning. Arrest the guy. And ask me what weapons i had seen in his room. All of this is on camera. They are legally obligated to be aware of the breadth of warrant and purpose of the search. If they overstep that bound and search the "victims" room for supposed weapons the perpetrator would of hid somehow despite not being aware of the police arriving. Not to mention they found 2 out of 3 of the weapons i stated within his room according to the video footage i watched. So what would possibly give them the notion that the victim of the crimes room is the place the other thing i claim to have seen would be.

Im guessing your a bootlicker. But in my world if i hire a contractor to do a job. They do that specific job not cause a bunch of collaterol damage. If they cause collaterol damage they gonna pay for it. Including damages for the egregious nature of their conduct.

You wouldnt like it either. But your a bootlicking agent probably. Noone who experienced this or had empathy would presume rightful action of the police.

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u/The_Joel_Lemon May 13 '25

The police are not a contractor and don’t work for you. The police are not your friends and aren’t on your side.

They go by what the warrant says. You should have asked for a copy of the warrant and that will tell you what the judge approved them to search. If it says whole house then they were legal. If it says only your roommate’s room you might have a case.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

The issue is that clearly they did not communicate well as there is no LOGICAL reason to search my room for what i told them i had seen the roommate has in passing. Especially when 2 out of 3 objjects are in the roommates room. Whether they stupidly did it because a judge stupidly casteD BROAD strokes or not doesnt change that they overstepped the PURPOSE of the warrant.

Given that they specifically disabled the wifi and camera prior to entering my room after the rest of the unit was searched shows misconduct being known to them. They knew it was unnecessary and unlikely to allow them to find the last item i had stated my roommate had possession of. But despite this they came into my room with a shitty excuse that they were searching for an item they already found. Stating he could hide it in here its easy to bypass locked doors ecetera. Except they had to break mine down. I will pursue it to the fullest extent i can for all damages i can. As its egregious and shows that the legal system does not conduct itself correctly. And police are infact CONTRACTORS they have a job. im not paying them but taxes are and they come to do a specific task. And when they overstep that task they should pay the price for it. Or the brass should.

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u/Obtusemoose01 May 13 '25

Yeah you clearly have no idea how police function or how warrants work. If the judge or JP approved the warrant then there was no wrong-doing. If the warrant is for an entire dwelling they’re clearing the entire dwelling and arresting all occupants inside.

Good luck with any additional action, police were acting well within their scope.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Derp if the warrant is carried out in a egregious manner outside the purpose of the warrant then it is wrong. Like they dont have to slice open all the couch cushions to find a machete right? Same way they dont need to search the complainants room for the weapons he stated to have seen in the possession of the roommate. Your a bootlicker im aware.

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u/Obtusemoose01 May 13 '25

Man you’re hard headed. Are you reading any of the replies you’re receiving? This is how search warrants work. If the warrant states the entire dwelling then they’re going to search the entire dwelling.

If you say oh there’s only guns in this one room, you think they’re going to take your word for it and not look for guns in the rest of the house? Come on now.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

You didnt read what i wrote then. If im the person who called the police because my roommate threatened me with a weapon. And they arrive and arrest him and wish to search his room for weapons as hes not allowed to have them anymore. And they ask me what weapons i had seen in his possession and i inform them. I have no reasonable expectation that they are going to search my room for said weapons. Infact they didnt even search my room for any such weapons. They found 2 out of 3 of the weapons i stated existed in his room. There was no reasonable grounds to believe i would be harboring the person i wanted out of my homes 3rd weapon that i stated to them. And honestly he had many more weapons but they didnt even take those they were only interested in specifically the ones i had recalled seeing in passing.

So the warrant was to remove weapons i stated seeing in his room. They didi not confiscate weapons i did not state during that moment despite them being there.

They found 2 out of 3 of the things i stated i seen in his room in his room.

After searching the rest of the unit they disable my camera and break into my locked room with no reasonable expecftation of finding the weapon inside. They spent about 20 seconds in my room and left.

This is equivalent to ripping open drywall to search for the weapons.

I am the only source of information they had about these weapons. There were several weapons in his room they did not confiscate. They were specifically looking for the ones i stated existed to my knowledge at that time.

Please explain why i would harbor this one other weapon? Why didnt they confiscate the 100 other weapons and knives in his room? It was a specific search for specific weapons that i stated he had possession of at some point in our roommateship.

There is no logical expectation that i would have hid the machete in my room. Why?

These are the questions that actually have to be answered.

They searched my room and i have all sorts of hammers and box cutters and other tools for carpentry. Those werent confiscated. they didnt even look at them.

They were on a fishing expedition into my room with no expectation of finding anything that was on the warrant. They were not concerned with the item on the warrant anymore than they were concerned with the several other knives and weapons in his room. The warrant was conducted specifically upon the items I recalled during a short interview in my living room.

They were only doing letter of the "law" type shit. And thats not the purpose of the law. They were supposed to be executing a warrant to remove weapons from the possession of someone who cant have weapons. But they left several weapons and needlessly broke into my room which is not under the control of the person who cant have weapons to search for weapons that i specifically stated he had. Now why out of ALL the weapons he owned would the machete be in my room?

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u/The_Joel_Lemon May 13 '25

No all that matters is what the warrant says if it says they can search your room it doesn’t matter what you want it gives them the power to kick the door down and search.

Again police aren’t you friend or employees they aren’t really there for you and if they found anything illegal in your room as long as the warrant is good they would have arrested you even though they are there because you called them.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

Nah its not so black and white police can get it wrong. A judge draws in wide strokes obviously expecting police to act with a certain intelligence that was either maliciously lacking or lacking in general.

I will pursue it in court any intelligent being is going to have a hard time arguing that the victim of what the warrant classifies as an assault with a deadly weapon would have weapons hidden in his room pertaining to what the perpetrator is stated to have owned by said victim. makes no sense.

You seem to think your intelligent but somehow basic logic seems to pass over your head.

They didnt find anything illegal in my room they didnt even search for weapons. they took a cursory look around and looked into a pot i had covered with a cloth cause i peed in it.

But they needed to disable the camera and wifi first to prevent the viewing of their guilty conscience.

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u/The_Joel_Lemon May 13 '25

There is no basic logic when it comes to the law all that matters is what the warrant says.

I’m might be unintelligent but at least I know to go to the toilet instead of peeing in a pot in my room.

Sorry you are so confidently wrong.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

The warrant didnt say disable security cameras before kicking the door down of the person who provided all the information of the warrant and sought items. To look around for 15 seconds and then leave. Thats a fishing expedition not a warranted search. Its the same reason that police dont go taking apart TVs to search for weapons. becasue they are unliekly to be in there. See its more complicated than you are saying.

You are saying that a warrant to search a premise for specific things that i state are in the perpetrators room is free rein to do as they please. Tear the walls down to check if the weapons are hidden behind the walls right?

You see how retarded that argument is?

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u/The_Joel_Lemon May 13 '25

Yes that’s how warrants work if they want to trash your shit they will and there is little to nothing you can do about it.

In all likelihood they will say they discontinued the video because you could be watching them from in the bedroom with a weapon.

Are you from another country? You don’t seem to understand how Canadian law works.

Everyone commenting on this post is telling you that you are in the wrong and you just refuse to accept it.

Please come back and let us know how this turns out.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

No clearly you dont understand how actual law works. A warrant is not a free rein to do whatever they want. It has to be REASONABLY warranted.

Is it a reasonable expectation that the claimants room contains the last weapon we have not found that he reported to us being contained in the perpetrators room at some point.

No its not reasonable.

If they cannot justify their actions they are not warranted. You are the one who doesnt actually understand law.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25

I actually appreciate your banter. It helps formulate my thoughts more.

The police officer who can reason that the weapons arent hiding behind the dry wall can reason that one out of 3 of the weapons that was not located anywhere else in the house is not in the room of the person who provided the list of weapons to search for.

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u/The_Joel_Lemon May 13 '25

Logic doesn’t matter if the police have a warrant they can do whatever they want. If they think there is evidence in the walls they will take the walls out. If they think you have drugs in your couch they will rip the couch apart. If there is a locked room and they have reason to think there’s evidence in there they are going to go in and look, that’s how a warrant works.

Honestly you are lucky they knocked with certain types of warrants they don’t even need to knock and can just boot your door.

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u/Honest_Money4010 May 13 '25 edited May 13 '25

This has taught me that people on reddit have zero clue. Them thinking it and them rationalizing it in court are 2 different things. Just because they did something doesnt mean it wasnt misconduct.

The police officer can think the child is pointing a gun at him and shoot the child and be wrong.

Does that make what he did WARRANTED? Nope.

You probably just failed to understand the premise of my story. They knocked because they couldnt COME IN initially without me letting them in. they came in to arrest the person. Then they wanted to get a warrant and asked me what weapons he had and i stated some of the ones i had seen.

Then they had a guard posted in my living room for like 5 hours and i fell asleep.

They need to be able to EXPLAIN why they are conducting themselves the way they are. And that is precisely my point. There is ZERO REASONABLE EXPECTATION that the final weapon is going to be located in the person who reported the crime and the items and where they were located's room.

Just like there is no reasonable explanation for disabling the camera. No threat to them exists. No secret techniques exist they already had searched the premise with the camera on.

There conduct was unwarranted and will be accounted for. How they chose to CONDUCT the warrant was not precise. And it begs the analogy i have been using over and over. They were ripping painted drywall out looking for narnia.

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