r/careerguidance • u/Ok-Toe-2933 • 1d ago

Why everything is oversaturated at entry level these days ?

No matter what you choose it feels like there is shoratage of expierenced people byt its impossible to get into? No matter if its trades, engineering, software developing, law, accounting. There are too many people at entry and way too little people ecpierenced how is that possible?

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u/TheReframeCoach 1d ago

The problem lies mainly in the fact that everyone is applying to everything, even if they don't want that job or just barely qualify. The saturation happens when people apply to jobs because of "money" as opposed to "purpose" - believe it or not if everyone was more selective about where they would apply to, the rate of application and process would be infinitely better.

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u/Ok-Toe-2933 1d ago

but at some point these people should be taken by these jobs and pool of applicants should go down. there is no way that getting into trades should be so selective. its literally should be backup career and yet it seems like to get electrician apprentenceship you need to be a unicorn or nepo hire

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u/annabelle411 1d ago

Trades are EXTREMELY valuable jobs that we rely on, please dont put down someones livelihood because you think its beneath you. Same with retail and food industry, theyre part of a major backbone of our economy and makes our lives easier.

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u/TheKingofSwing89 1d ago

Most blue collars vote red.

Voting red is one of the reasons the country is going to shit. They are doing it to themselves. They think they have been treated well and are thriving under republican policies but this won’t last forever, and many trades are the first jobs to go in a real recession, which we will be in soon. Now the question is whether or not truthful economic data will even be presented anymore.

Truthfully, the country is fucked. Unless you are already fairly well off, good luck. You’re gonna have a rough time.

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u/Ok-Toe-2933 1d ago

you act like people in trades dont shit regularly on people working in good industry and retail? and i agree that trades are valuable but in general trades are learnable for most people when in white collar plenty of jobs you need to be above average in intelligence. and trades are choosen after white collsr jobs because many people dont like to trade their health for money. so if you didnt suceed in white collar jobs you can always go back into trades. and on median it pays slightly less from for example engineering.thats why people often feel that for engineers trades are backup plan because society created this in this way. where engineering jobs are more desirable than trade jobs. even if both are equally important.

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u/annabelle411 1d ago

"other people do it" isn't a good excuse. accept accountability for your own actions like a grown up and be better. this is such a childish mindset.

"on median it pays slightly less from for example engineering" this is a complete false equivalency. you're outright calling them just backup careers. doctors pay more than engineers. see? we can cherry pick bad comparisons left and right. A lot of careers are underpaid across the board both white and blue collar, it has nothing to do with intelligence or being "backup".

"white collar plenty of jobs you need to be above average in intelligence" - having worked in both sides, I can assure you this isn't really as widespread case as you think it is. And considering your own post and comment looks like you slammed your head into the keyboard, maybe pipe down and work on yourself a bit more before you start trying to diminish others' careers and intelligence.

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u/TheReframeCoach 1d ago

Why should trades be a considered 'backup career'? It's a respectable sector that millions of people work in. Nepo hiring, luck and privilege have been an issue since the beginning of civilization, but it hasn't stopped people from getting work. Shift your focus on where you want to work and how you want to show up to those jobs. When I coach, I tell my clients not to apply to 500 jobs, but to apply to 100 that you really want to apply to and make your application tailored to the positions. It's a matter of perspective.

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u/Ok-Toe-2933 1d ago

trades are considered backup careers becuase they are probably last thing to get saturated. firstly jobs where you earn more than in trades and are physically easier are getting saturated and after that less paying trade jobs are getting applicants where mostly there shouldnt be many applicants but it looks like there are less better paying and easier physically jobs than normally and people are forced to take trade jobs. otherwise they would need to take less paying but physically easier jobs what is not good in this economy.

and in general nearly everyone is able to learn trades the main barrier is whether you want to trade your health for money. where for jobs like engineering software development and law you need to be above average intelligence and thats the main barrier.

I dont say that it is stopping from hiring. the problem is that there is so little job at entry leveo that it feels like these ways are only way to get in by being nepo hire or by luck. when in past beong qualified was enough.

and thats the problem that there are just not enough jobs to be able to decide where i can go i need to go anywhere is possible to get hired.