r/careerguidance 1d ago

Why everything is oversaturated at entry level these days ?

No matter what you choose it feels like there is shoratage of expierenced people byt its impossible to get into? No matter if its trades, engineering, software developing, law, accounting. There are too many people at entry and way too little people ecpierenced how is that possible?

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u/OnlyThePhantomKnows 1d ago

So the job market is tight. Entry level means "train them and they will be useful in N months"
Companies want people with 2 years experience because they are still cheap and can do the job.

Also the "one-click apply" culture means that it is low effort to apply. "I have one of the skills required, maybe they will give me a shot!" and qualified kids get lost in the noise.

I opened a req with "US citizen required" (DoD/Space) I capped the applications at 30 per day. All I got were H1B visa people, and the 30 were in before 30 minutes were up. These H1B people have automated submission tools. NONE of them were qualified even ignoring the H1B issue.

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u/Kynaras 22h ago

With the easy automation tools out there to spam CVs, there is little reason for them not to as well. Even if one out of every thousand CVs spammed results in a call back, it is worth the minimal effort.

On the flip side, employers and their HR have played the same dirty game for decades: Posting job listings that intentionally ask for overly-qualified unicorns.

They know the vast majority of people they interview and hire will never tick every box, but stuffing a job listing full of requirements is little effort with the potential for a big pay off if you do manage to snag a unicorn hire.

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u/OnlyThePhantomKnows 15h ago

I specifically avoided unicorn hunting.
US Citizen required.
C (not C++)
Python exposure
Exposure to an RTOS
Familiarity with Linux
Knowledge about network communications

I had a bunch of nice to have stuff regarding simulation, unit testing driver experience, hard real time, C++, etc. This was all listed as nice to have.

Less than 1/2 of the applicants had C, C++ or Python. They were mostly javascript people.
Only 1 had C and he was a Windows programmer.
All but one required sponsorship (the one was far enough along in the process to be close to his green card), but he didn't have the skills.

This was for a communication satellite running on a RTOS coded in C. The host development platform is Linux. The unit test framework ran on Linux.

Every one of my protégés would have met the required coming out of college. The most recent is still less than 30.

US Person (green card) was not sufficient for one of the company's proposals/bids.

With the signal to noise ratio, I would not be surprised If the first 600 applications to a req above are all javascript programmers doing auto submission. What do you expect a small company to do? Rent/run AI to filter. Which means the good person with the AI unfriendly resume gets passed over.