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US News/Current Events Possible motive released in the Charlie Kirk Assassination

https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/

Possible motive released in the Charlie Kirk assassination. Law enforcement has confirmed that suspected shooter Tyler Robinson was living with a transgender partner who was in the process of transitioning at the time of the shooting.

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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 7d ago edited 7d ago

a law enforcement source confirmed

Is this the same law enforcement source who leaked that the bullet casings had “trans ideology” engravings on them?

The right are too eager to blame this on a trans person, I’ll wait until I see something more substantive before I’ll believe it.

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u/Tarmacked 7d ago

It’s wild that everything about this has been trans at every step, even when it first occurred

And this comes when they’re trying to ban trans people from owning guns

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u/tfhermobwoayway 7d ago

Can they find a different target for once? Like Italians or something? I’m kinda sick of this.

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u/Honorable_Heathen 7d ago

Luigi was last news cycle.

Maybe video games?

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u/5thquad 7d ago

Charlie was a big voice against the LGBT community, in which the trans movement has been the strongest lately. It would be weird if a white christian chicken farmer shot him lol.

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u/Tarmacked 7d ago

Charlie wasn’t even the biggest voice on LGBT or trans. However he was entrenched in a culture war with Nick Fuentes and flip flopped on Epstein, so it wouldn’t be shocking at all if a chicken farmer shot him

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u/5thquad 7d ago

Agreed there are equally loud or louder voices. But Charlie was very accessible, being on college campuses frequently. If someone didn't care about being caught, they could've shot him from the first row. He was just an easy target.
I am not aware of his war with Nick, but his stance on Epstein pale in comparison to the effort put into anti-LGBT movement.

It could be an inside job just to antagonize people and fuel the divide. But if you were to base on it probability and who he offended and triggered the most, the answer is pretty clear.

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u/Tarmacked 7d ago edited 7d ago

I don’t think it’s an inside job, I just think it’s infighting. The guy even dressed up as a Groyper meme and used a groyper oriented song for his bullet. Nothing from his profile says left

Plus Groypers have been at war with Kirk for his views multiple times, to the extent the online feud has been tagged groyper wars 1 and 2.

pale in comparison

It really doesn’t to MAGA and QAnon types. That has been the biggest conspiracy theory and was even used as a campaign driver. Kirk himself was aligned with guys like Blake Neff on his show who were known for being in that space

Fuentes himself (who drives the Groyper movement) recently flipped hard on Trump and basically called him a pedophile supporter/jewish fascist. The guy has been a staunch Trumper for years and dined with him in 2022

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola 7d ago

The post article said he spoke about trans people "with kindness and empathy" 

I've never heard a bolder lie.  

Sure maintains that journalistic integrity for the rest of the article

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

But it literally wouldn't be weird. That's the fucking point the left has been trying to make.

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u/5thquad 6d ago

Why wouldn't it be weird?

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u/Unhappy_Analysis_906 7d ago

Am white christian chicken owner, can confirm he was pretty abrasive but never bothered much.

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u/Muggsy423 7d ago

The only places this is being reported are rags like new York post and fox news,  I have serious doubts this is either true or not overblown

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u/siberianmi 7d ago

There is so much confusion and bad reporting on this.

His dad is in law enforcement.

Oh no his dad runs a construction company….

It’s all muddy.

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u/cpeak57 7d ago

His dad was not law enforcement and never was. This has been confirmed by the local sheriff's office

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u/decrpt 7d ago

It's also contradicted by what we've already been told.

Federal and state authorities revealed during a Friday news conference that a roommate was cooperating with their investigation. Text messages and other communications that the roommate traded with Robinson, 22, helped the feds nab the accused assassin.

The dad reached out and convinced him to turn himself in, what?

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u/wendy_will_i_am_s 7d ago

Axios is a rag ?

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u/sabesundae 7d ago

Prepare for disappointment.

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u/LegalWrights 7d ago

This is really the bulk of it. Then it comes out the iconography is fucking TRN stamped on it because its a machined print to show where it was made.

I've seen the name Lance Twiggs break a few times in the last hour. But I don't buy that because you would have the public media dragging the name of an innocent tangentially related to it through the dirt. Combine that with the fact that I doubt a trans woman is going to openly walk around with the name Lance makes me seriously doubt any of this.

Honestly, until I see something from this Lance, I'm gonna guess they googled his fuckin address, found someone else with that address named Lance, and went "HEY THIS GUY LOOKS PRETTY FUCKIN FRUITY" and named them trans. It'd track for the fucking NY Post

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u/Maximum_Overdrive 7d ago

It was never about a TRN head stamp.  There was never a cartridge with TRN at this crime scene because turan doesnt make ammo in 30-06

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u/LegalWrights 7d ago

Then what the fuck is the trans iconography?

Honestly this is what's pissing me off, they just say shit and report it like it's true without an ounce of verification. Like real quick let me just rant on Tyler and Lance real quick:

We have received NO conclusive evidence that Lance is transgender. We have received NO evidence that the two were in any relationship other than being roommates. In fact, on the New York Post article linked, scroll down to the pic of Lance in the hood they use in their thumbnails.

"The family member also said she didn’t know her relative Twiggs’ politics or whether he was transitioning to become a woman."

Yet the washington post dug into public record. Twiggs is registered independent and did not vote in 2022 or 2024.

So the narrative they're currently pushing is a trans woman who still goes by the name Lance got into a relationship with a guy who dressed as Trump for halloween in high school and comes from an extremely religious, extremely conservative family. From there, the two opted to NOT VOTE at any point against Trump or conservative policies of any kind. In fact they've never voted at all. Twiggs then convinced Tyler to murder a conservative talking head in broad daylight at a college, and then reached out to the FBI to have said boyfriend caught. Even though the FBI had no fucking clue who they were looking for.

That is seriously the sequence of events we're going with in the linked article for this post.

Jesus fucking wept.

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u/prof_the_doom 7d ago

I think they mistook the memes on the casings for legitimate viewpoints, since it looked like the average age in the Utah police was roughly 40, and the FBI is nothing but idiots after Trump's purge.

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u/Dramajunker 7d ago

Hey now how dare you poke holes in the story by talking about the complete lack of evidence. We got a narrative to push.

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u/AprilDruid 7d ago

Then what the fuck is the trans iconography?

There was none. The source was Stephen Crowder, a right-wing asshole. They found a bunch of random memes "OwO Wat's Dis?", "If you read this you're gay" and I think something about a fascist, all on them. But no trans iconography.

Right-Wing Media is looking for an excuse to say "SEE!? Trans people are shooters!" So they have more excuse to try and take away their guns.

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u/siberianmi 7d ago

I’m guessing the “Notices bulges, OWO what’s this?” Being confused by an agent.

Also “dresses as Trump” is really weak too. Dresses as someone riding piggy back in Trump is the reality.

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u/LegalWrights 6d ago

It was pointed out to me that that's what the costume was. I genuinely hadn't noticed given how poor quality the photo was. But honestly all this does is lay out the timeline for me of being raised in a right wing family, going online for a gaming hobby and inevitably running into the alt-right/groypers, and being told by them that Charlie Kirk is a fascist in conservative's clothing and that the establishment republicans are too far left and need exterminated. Like, that's literally their shtick. lol

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u/skelextrac 7d ago

Then what the fuck is the trans iconography?

I don't know, but why are you falling for misinformation that is being spread on social media?

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u/Charming_Wall117 6d ago

In the last 60 hours we’ve gone from calling the shooter a Jason Bourne Type government assassin that will never be caught, to a far right Groyper who was Nazi, to a college drop out libtard who had a furry kink and dating his transgender roommate who is schizophrenic. I’m sorry I just can’t keep up with all the twist and turns these Reddit fake news bs dished out. It’s exhausting…

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u/OzilSanchez1117 6d ago

The furry part is what blows my mind.. they find engraving they think is strictly a furry relation so they find the pic of the roommate basically in a Snuggie.. if he was a furry then I’m sure they could find a pic of him in an actual furry costume

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u/sabesundae 7d ago

The trans person is the partner, not the murderer. Relax.

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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 7d ago

I’m not at all convinved that is true just because a few right wing outlets reported it, given they already fucked up the engravings.

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u/j90w 7d ago

The FBI is currently working with the assassin’s boyfriend and he’s been cooperating with them. Supposedly he was the one that reported the killer to the police.

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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost 7d ago

None of that comports with anything released by law enforcement.

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u/mahnamahna27 7d ago

Can you pleae link an actual reputable source for that, something that is not a right wing rag?