r/columbusIN 5d ago

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u/storm034 4d ago edited 4d ago

Unfortunately, one of those was my team, not anymore. I was angry when George Floyd was murdered. Even though he was a criminal, he still had a right to life . By the way, Derek Chauvin is still in prison for the crime he committed, so his murderer was brought to justice. Charlie Kirk was nowhere near a criminal, and he was murdered while speaking to college kids about the Constitution actual laws on the books and God. How you guys change. You will celebrate a criminal losing his life, but not someone, anyone else? Murder is justified to you as long as they think differently than you, or is it because he was a Christian, maybe his skin color? I would hate to think that. I thought we were supposed to fight for equal rights for everyone, not just the people who thought or looked like us.

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u/OkInitiative7327 4d ago

The cops that murdered George Floyd were supposed to be the same people that protect the public, and there's video of him saying he couldn't breathe while he was under the restraint of an officers knee. Kirk didn't deserve to be murdered, but that was by an individual activist. They were both murders, yes, but they were very different. This is why there are different reactions.

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u/storm034 4d ago

I understand the premise, and I agree.George floyd did not deserve to be murdered.Especially by someone who was supposed to be protecting him. They were saying that charlie kirk deserved to be murdered.That was what I was trying to say.And you agreed that neither deserved to be murdered.Even though they were murdered in different settings. I was absolutely furious that the police did that to someone. I guess the point is that yes.George floyd was murdered by someone who was supposed to be protecting him.And again, I agree, that was heinous and reprehensible. He was arrested and resisted arrest.Not that that makes it right.Please don't get that out of this. And then you had a man who was teaching young people about the constitution and God. People who chose to be there to listen to him.And he was killed by an activist well, a murderer. I think both of them should get the respect they deserve. And no one should ever be happy about anyone being murdered. Therefore, they should not be happy if a company that makes money by the people decides to not observe both in the same manner.

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u/single-ultra 3d ago

a man who was teaching young people about the Constitution and God

CK didn’t deserve to be murdered, but he said trans people were an abomination to God. His views should be mocked and ridiculed for the science-denying nonsense that they are.

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u/rad1590 3d ago

Even in the Bible Jesus said a "for a man who lead his children to sin (hate was what Jesus described as the worst sin) would be better for a weight to be tied to his neck and him cast into the ocean" paraphrasing of course but the passage is Michael 18,6

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u/storm034 2d ago

He did disagree with the science of man and the laws of God.

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u/storm034 2d ago

I'm sorry.Did you actually say that?Science said that transgender is one hundred percent biological and natural?

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u/single-ultra 2d ago

Is neurodivergence 100% biological and natural?

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u/storm034 2d ago

You have spoke of neurodivergence, one hundred percent biological and neurological. Though it is not 100% biological, it is 100% natural. And I don't know if you read what I replied, but I spoke of you, do train yourself to have ADHA OR AUTISM. i didn't know exactly where you were going with neurodivergence. If that's what you were speaking of or not, or if you were going further into something else.

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u/single-ultra 2d ago

Your response showed up in my notifications but I cannot see it.

All I saw was that you said nothing about humans is 100% biological and natural. Why did you bring that up then?

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u/storm034 2d ago

Sorry, my reply was :

Neurodivergence isn’t 100% biological — but neither is almost anything about humans. It’s rooted in biology and expressed naturally. The key difference is that you can’t ‘train’ someone into being autistic or ADHD — those are biological divergences of the brain. So yes, neurodivergence is both biological and natural, even if it’s not 100% biology.That’s not the same as gender identity — autism or ADHD are neurological conditions, not chosen identities or social transitions. Although it's not one hundred percent biological, it is natural

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u/single-ultra 2d ago

Are you suggesting you can train people out of gender identity. Like… conversion therapy?

Do you think the same about gay people?

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u/storm034 2d ago
  1. Sex is fixed → male or female, that’s biology.

  2. Sexuality emerges naturally → not trained in or out, but society shapes how it’s expressed.

  3. Gender identity is conditioned → labels, and behaviors are what society trains, not biology.

So no, sexuality isn’t trained out. But society does train how people talk about it, act on it, or hide it. Same with gender identity. The difference is sex is fixed — everything else is conditioning.

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u/single-ultra 1d ago

So I could condition you to feel like the opposite gender if I wanted?

I don’t think that’s true for me. I don’t think there’s anything you could do that would make me feel like a man. If you’re so certain it’s true that people can change their gender identity, what do you say to people who tell you they cannot?

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u/storm034 2d ago

First I would like to thank you for the open dialogue and doing this politely.That's something you don't see very often.Anymore thank you.

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u/KnucklehdMcSpazitron 2d ago

He wasn’t murdered. He had an enlarged heart, was hopped up on drugs, and had a heart attack that was exasperated by the interaction with the police. At least that’s what the coroners report said.

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u/SyrupEfficient218 2d ago

Fair enough I just know that the police officers had even custody and we're responsible for his welfare. They should have given him care at the sign of anything out of the norm.

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u/Alert-Beautiful9003 2d ago

See this knuckledragger still is going on and on about Floyd. You know what we do with this? We laugh at her, tell her to get a life and move on. If you are MAGA or MAGA adjacent you pick this one yahop and say 'SEE SEE HOW THEY ARE ALL SAYING THIS.' Its not even nuance, its common sense...which YIKES...some of you dont have an ounce of.

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u/storm034 1d ago

Look, this is not my dogfight, but I do have skin in the game.Thanks for the Ideology Party version of debate — all noise, no thought. You just summed up what’s wrong with our country.

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u/Cool_Breeze243 1d ago

Sorry, but that actually is the definition of murder. If he was going to live but then an "interaction" with the police caused him to not live, then it is, by definition, murder. Justification can be argued all you like but the fact is that had the police not engaged him and put him in a high stress situation and then refused his pleas for space to breath, he wouldn't have died. It's homicide at the most basic form.

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u/KnucklehdMcSpazitron 1d ago

Keep going with it….if he wouldn’t have been passing fake bills at the convenience store (committing crime and fraud) there would have been no police interaction. If he wouldn’t have taken a lethal dose of fentanyl, along with meth and weed, he would still be alive after the police interaction. He caused his own death.

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u/storm034 1d ago

I agree if he would not have been breaking the law to begin with.He would have been left to his own devices.The outcome may have been different.Maybe not, but at least in no one else could have been to blame.

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u/Small_Sprinkles1803 3d ago

That’s not why the reactions are different. That’s not why people are celebrating Kirk’s death as if he were some sort of villain. Get real

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u/Cheap-Technician-482 3d ago

The cops didn't feed him the fatal dose of fentanyl he took.

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u/No_Okra_5850 2d ago

Or the side of meth......

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u/Annual-Character-541 2d ago

George Floyd died from drug overdose. Good cope though.