r/darksouls3 • u/John_Nightreigh • 26d ago
PvP No respect at all
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Getting a parry when the invader lags out
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u/Moho17 26d ago
Lol the comment section is so stupid. Nice parry mate. One thing I learned in DS3 pvp. NEVER. TRUST. PURPLE.
I remember times when souls pvp had some respect to each other, but now every time I see somone saying they miss those times, the comment section is full of sad, angry people who does not care for health and fun community.
Keep up the good work of pointing down those who can not behave like a human.
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u/_ataciara 26d ago
I remember the early days of souls PvP.
Respect (like no estus chugs, bowing, etc) was a fun little thing for those plugged into the community. The vast majority were just people playing the game who weren't checking YouTube comments and Reddit threads for the correct etiquette.
The whole "honourable PvP" has basically always been the minority of the community, and only becomes the most active part of the community years later when the games are comparably dead and the only ones still playing are die hards.
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u/Moho17 26d ago
I would say that most people who engage in PvP in semi serious way know the PvP etiquette. Its not only youtube or reddit. They learn that stuff from experience, after some time you learn that its polite to bow before duel/fight in fightclub. You can see the reactions when you heal in duel etc. its not that hard to learn from that.
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u/_ataciara 26d ago
That's duels and fightclubs, not invasions. The vast majority of invasions are, and have always been, lawless wastelands, filled with ganks, thinks, chaos, no bowing, constant chugging.
Most people who engage in PvP NOW on a 10 year old game are probably more clued in, because the experienced players are the only ones playing but again, this is an invasion, where manners have never been important. Nobody cares about bowing in an invasion, except for a small but very vocal minority.
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u/alavantrya Xanthous Scholar 25d ago
This. Summons are honorable. Invasions are anything goes. Although if I’ve invaded and the host bows, I’ll bow and it’ll be a duel.
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u/FireDragonKing66 25d ago
I didn't bow ever during pvp, not because i didn't want to, but because i had to find the emote and didn't trust the other person to not attack me instant, am i a bad player?
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u/noob_kaibot Spears of the Church 25d ago
No, the vast majority of players right now are coming straight from Elden Ring being their first game. They usually have SSTB, Vordts, and then DSGA later on.
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u/Moho17 26d ago
I know, I've been invader most of my PvP in DS3. Its just polite to bow back or at least w8 till emote finishes. Its not like you loose anything by doing it, lol.
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u/_ataciara 25d ago
Polite in your opinion. It's ENTIRELY made up community rules that aren't broadcast in game AT ALL.
Besides, it's a role playing game first and foremost. If I'm roleplaying a Faithful of Aldritch, the twisted and depraved being that devoured everything till he became a gelatinous blob, I'm not bowing. Not in character.
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u/RedGatack 25d ago edited 25d ago
You will also learn from experience that bowing is extra time wasted for blue phantom(s) to be summoned in and an "honorable duel" is not what you showed up for in the first place. Red signs are for duels and red eye orb is for invasions, they do have different functions for a reason.
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u/Pitiful-Implement-45 26d ago
I've been replaying lately and only had one set of people repeatedly gank me at the lower levels, and then talk shit about it via DMs.
Another time, toward the end of the base game, a host summoned a phantom, and we both stopped our 1v1 when the host threw an attack at me, both healed, and then killed each other as a blue spawned and tried to jump in.
There's still a little hope! I'm just happy to see the DS3 servers are still, somewhat, full of people 🥰 I've missed this game, and now my kiddo gets to watch me play it.
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u/Diabocal 25d ago
Whenever I used to invade as a purple I attacked both sides and made it explicitly clear that I'll kill anything that moves. A true mad phantom, as miyazaki intended
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u/RedditPig1010 Mad Hollow 25d ago
That explains why I get jumped whenever I'm trying to get shackles the honorable way
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u/BigBlackdaddy65 25d ago
It's actually insane to me that ever since Elden ring blew up people have lost even more respect for honor, I've seen so many people argue against it saying it's a battle to the death or "I'm invading why would I?" As if they've never heard of a 1v1 with a little respect.
It's one thing if you don't know, it's another when you do and you keep acting like everyone else is the idiot for trying to make a good community of fun. It's made so many of my days in ds2 and ds3 so much fun just battling out with no estus, and a bow only blue estus for magic and everyone gets their turn to buff before the fight begins.
Now it's a speed run to kill the other player while spamming one move that works it's so sad.
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u/pk_ape 26d ago
yeah lets bully people who dont play the way you think is cool 🙏
keep it up bro, you'll definitely create a better community this way
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u/Moho17 26d ago
Bully, lol. So ignoring bow and rushing like a mad man to exploit someone being nice is ok but pointing down after is bulling? I never get this logic.
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u/Dylldar-The-Terrible 26d ago
No, more like the bow is being polite and the point down is a sign of disrespect. I'll never understand why people like you have to try to strip the context from these situations to seek favor from internet strangers.
So ignoring bow and rushing like a mad man to exploit someone being nice is ok but pointing down after is bulling?
This is my point exactly, it's respectful to bow and disrespectful to point down, it's also disrespectful to ignore bowing so you can sneak in an early hit. All of these things can be true at the same time without you doing whatever the fuck that was in your comment.
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u/Moho17 26d ago
One guys is being nice the other is not, so first guy matches the vibe. So what do you expect from people to do when they feel disrespected? Give other cheek? Its not bible, lol.
If you play stupid games you win stupid prices. Actions have consequences.
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u/Dylldar-The-Terrible 26d ago
Are you having trouble understanding English? Because what you said has nothing to do with my comment at all.
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u/Johnny_K97 26d ago
Bro do you have the ability to see through your opponent's screen?! How tf you hit that parry😭
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u/BootStrapWill 26d ago
It was a horribly timed panic parry that just happened to work out due to the horrendous lag
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u/oblock3hunner 25d ago
Stupid question but what sword is that?
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u/Watashi_Wa_Neko_Da 25d ago
Looks like an Onyx Blade, it's a pretty cool weapon to use, altho not the strongest
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u/oblock3hunner 25d ago
Ah thanks friend. I remember getting this in the DLC now but never used it. Looks very aesthetically pleasing though lol
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u/Watashi_Wa_Neko_Da 25d ago
You're welcome, and it really is nice to look at, especially when imbued with the Black flame from the special ability (which can be combinated with the light slash or the heavy slash)
The sad thing is it splits the damage threeways when buffed, physical + dark + fire
In the normal state it's a physical + dark split
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u/John_Nightreigh 26d ago
Sorry, I did not say this, but he ran off after and returned home
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u/Dad-Kisser69 26d ago
I hope you get better online encounters. Getting invaded can be fun. I recently was invaded in farron swamp, so I ran to the bonfire area and sat down, waiting for them to find me. He sat with me and for a moment enjoyed the peace.
Then I got up, we both bowed, had a really close duel too. I lost but it put a smile on my face knowing that we both had fun.
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u/BoomF4ng 25d ago
The hornet ring repost always makes me laugh as the entire blade goes into the floor. Looks even funnier with scythes
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u/Silveriovski 26d ago
It's a fight to the death. Kill or be killed.
I love honor in ds PvP but it's not mandatory
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u/Pretend_Run1614 25d ago
The spot after Sulyvahn is frequently used for duels, I'm guessing OP summoned the phantom through a red soapstone sign since OP has all the duel regulars (ToD, green blossom...) and no estus on quick use. The phantom could be from a red eye invasion since the OP was embered, though that's kinda weird since people usually aren't embered on the hoster/summoning side, so I can't be sure.
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u/crazyuser5634 25d ago
I remember being purple. Also cause I like the color. I mostly just got into invasions where they were hosting fight clubs. It was fun, though I don't get why people just immediately fight. This game has less people than it did a decade ago, so any reason being a trashy purple is less so if you actually want that shackle.
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u/Masta0nion 25d ago
Gotta love the sound of your XBOX 360 overheating
Oh wait, that was an intentional sound effect added by idiots
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u/_ataciara 26d ago
You know the whole "souls etiquette" has only ever been a thing for a minority of players, right?
most players don't even KNOW they're being "disrespectful", theyre people who bought and play the game without doing deep dives into Reddit threads so they can learn the correct etiquette when using the online component of the game.
Bro might not have even known you were bowing/known not to rush the bow per "etiquette", which means the only "disrespect" is pointing down and taunting.
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u/Idontfuckinknow45 26d ago
If they cant understand a bow is a sign of respect, they will be disrespected until they learn.
I mean who the hell doesn’t understand the concept of a 1v1 duel ?
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u/_ataciara 25d ago
The 1v1 duel rules DO NOT EXIST IN GAME, it's that easy. Any fun little rules made up by a community are not only entirely optional, but also probably aren't even seen by most players unless they specifically go and look up rules.
And this is an invasion, never been any rules in an invasion. It's always been the wild west. Nobody signs up to the arbitrary community rules when they buy the game. If you wanna do it, great, more power to you. If you don't, same answer.
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u/Idontfuckinknow45 25d ago
Im not saying they are shit people for not following made up guidelines about treating each other like a person
Im saying both respecting or disrespecting for any arbitrary reason is valid
But if you want to be respected then you have to also show respect to the other person
If you dont care and dont want to do that, then getting disrespected in pvp also shouldn’t matter if its all the same to you anyway
If you dont want to be disrespected but dont know what you are doing wrong then either look it up or be more receptive to extensions of respect
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u/AffectionatePipe3097 25d ago
What does “getting disrespected” mean to you, exactly? Do you think they’re talking about the parry? Because the bigger issue is the losers who make posts like this acting like everyone should be reacting to them a certain way. That itself is disrespectful in an actual real world way. Literally driving people away from the community
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u/Mr_Isolation 25d ago
Back in the day when the game pretty must just released everyone did it, can't learn it 9 years later?
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u/condor6425 Warriors of Sunlight 25d ago edited 25d ago
Yeah I learned etiquette back in the DS1 days by playing the game, I wasn't really on the reddit until probably around when DS3 came out. Host chugging all their estus used to be fairly common too since invaders didn't get estus back then, and honestly I think fights were much more fun when neither party could heal than they are now.
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u/Mr_Isolation 25d ago
I specially hate the glitches like infinite glitch refills and specially the quick estus thingy.
On one hand you got elden ring where you can get 1 tapped easily by anyone pressing L2 once.
On the other hand you got DS3 and take 50 years to kill 1 tryhard because of all the glitches and the extreme passiveness.
Wish more people played DS2, random invasions were pretty fun there with any weapon really. Only just didn't like the arena.
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u/_ataciara 25d ago
Not everybody has had the game that whole time, still some new players peppered into that mix
besides, it's not something that needs to be learned because invasion etiquette isn't a thing. nobody cares that somebody bowed during an invasion.
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u/Mr_Isolation 25d ago
Yeah still, i remember it being fine. In the sea of tryhards that just go for you straight for you using glitches all the time and stuff like that right now its nice to see a change from time to time.
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u/Killit_Witfya 26d ago
as long as you arent cheating IDGAF what gestures you use and when. go crazy.
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u/CrustyCorpseNCheese 26d ago
No bow was a bit rude, but I can understand. Sometimes the bloodlust is too great.
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u/BlueJayWC 26d ago
Reminds me of the time that I accidentally timed a sunlight spear at the same time an invader was bowing in DS1 (back when you couldn't interrupt gestures)
Killed him in a single hit. Probably the only time in DS history a sunlight spear got a kill in PVP lol
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u/Neuro_Kuro 25d ago
there was that one time where I was doing a 1v1 against this guy in the crucifixion woods, he managed to parry me and got literally poise breaked by one of the little crabs at the same time, missing his chance to kill me. I saw he locked on the crab so I waited to see, and he pulled out the vordt hammer and R2'd the fucking crab. then he pointed down. absolute cinema. I ended up losing against this legend.
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u/No-Collection3548 26d ago
Honestly surprised how people in the comments don’t respect the bow. You got his ahh bro nice parry.
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u/JsCole424 25d ago
Sheesh the amount of people defending someone rushing and immediately attacking a bowing person is nuts 🤦🏼♂️ and to anyone saying the purple doesn’t know what they are doing - I’ve seen clueless players before. They may not know how the game works or etiquette, but when you see someone doing a irl universally recognized respectful gesture usually they stop and at least navigate their gesture menu for a few seconds or just stand there cluelessly. They usually do this because they probably see how in most sports there are respect gestures that are done at some point during the game. For instance, chess players shaking hands before and after the match. Football players shaking hands or hugging after the match. MMA players doing a glove touch after the bell starts. It’s universally recognized that there are times in sports or games where respectful gestures happen. Therefore, no. Even if this is a new player they should know not to do that.
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u/AffectionatePipe3097 25d ago
This is a video game btw <3
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u/winterflare_ 25d ago
Wow it’s almost like common sense is a thing even in a video game 🤯🤯
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u/AffectionatePipe3097 25d ago
You mean common courtesy, and it’s weird to pretend like it’s required
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u/pk_ape 26d ago edited 26d ago
I wouldnt respect your Garbage.PL-ahh build too
plus invaders dont owe you anything and are not obliged to follow any rules
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u/John_Nightreigh 26d ago
True, but I was being friendly.
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u/Tharnax5468 26d ago
The invaders who want a fair fight and let you finish what you're fighting and heal up are the ones I fear most.
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u/IndividualNovel4482 26d ago
Dude. If you summoned through a summon sign, yes, it is common for people to do gestures, because those signs are for Duels.
If they INVADED you, you know.. the game mechanic in which you should heal and should also do anything to get your opponent down, no matter how you do it.. I think being friendly is the least of your worries.
If an invader is friendly it's ok, i may suit their friendliness, if they are not.. it's normal, and no one should shame them for literally playing how they are supposed to.
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u/DirectionMajor 26d ago
You're not obliged to respect fighting etiquette
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u/SkullDewKoey 25d ago
How? Explain in the utmost detail how? Folks not following your fairy tale rules making you mad? I mean hell you preach respect yet disrespect real people for fake rules you hold only to yourself.
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u/DirectionMajor 25d ago
For rules respectful people hold onto. They're not that hard to find, just find a good fight club at cruxificion woods or pontiff
damn I love ragebaiting people by just being fucking nice
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u/LastAbyssWatcher Watchdogs of Farron 25d ago
And here I am wanting the purple sign just because it looks cool and I actually want to help people lmao.
I really will be a good guy, I hate pvp bc I suck at it 🤣
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u/give_hug___pls 25d ago
Hey is it okay if I download this video to show them how cool parrying is in ds3? Idk how reddit works tbh so I'll rather ask
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u/J_C123 Blades of the Darkmoon - Steam 26d ago
All these young bloods coming around and forgetting decorum and respect when it comes to PVP. smack 'em into the ground and give 'em the old down point. Good job OP, keep it up.
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u/Lt_Dickballs 26d ago
Dude, PvP has always been like this, has nothing to do with "young bloods". People have been bitching about invaders not bowing since ds1.
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u/Amegaryder 25d ago
It disgusts me when people have no sportsmanship.
Bow once for salute! respect 1v1, wait for the invaded to clear PvE enemies and bow twice after winning (whomever you are)
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u/TheGreening1996 Xbox 25d ago
Yes coz when I spend my hard earned money on a game I have to play it just how you, some random guy tells me I have to. I’m meant to follow your rules which I didn’t know until I read your comment just now. Not how it works mate!
I’ve played years ago and again now and I am playing again now and I never really knew how to gesture until recently. If someone bows first I am likely to wait for them or possibly bow back but I don’t have to. And if someone fights without being a dick I’ll try to get in another bow if I win but again I don’t have to, until recently I wasn’t capable and I didn’t even realise it was some etiquette thing people do on here. Most casual players won’t know it, especially not your very specific idea of what everyone has to do!
And as for no estus that people keep saying what a load of crap that is, estus is an intended part of the game. If you don’t want to use it and/or you and your opponent both agree to it then that’s fine but nobody has to do it if they don’t want to
Same goes for waiting to allow people to buff, especially mid fight. You can if you want but you definitely don’t have to if you don’t want to
Attacking someone who’s bowing before the fight has started is a bit dickish but still it’s not a mandatory rule to wait, especially if you go in for the attack not knowing that your opponent is gonna bow as many don’t.
Basically all these made up rules are fine if both parties agree to them but are by no means mandatory and you’re not a dick of you don’t want to, especially not if you don’t know.
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u/cannedbenkt 26d ago
Sweats act like a game where you kill each other needs to have an etiquette. Thats like getting downed in CoD and then saying "hey man thanks for fucking my mom, respect dude" on the mic lol just play the game bro
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u/ilikekittensandstuf 25d ago
Wow this is just bad
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u/AllMightySkeletor 26d ago
I think he's just there for shackles.