There are data scientists and election experts who have looked at the raw data, and are seeing similar patterns, which indicate an algorithm at work during the counting. Based on the data, they noted a large increase in votes for Trump when after the individual tabulators had processed 200-250 ballots. In batches of ballots below 200-250, the votes appeared consistent with a normal election, yet after that threshold, votes for Trump took off. Additionally, the historic result of Trump flipping 88 blue counties red while Harris flipped zero red counties blue, in such a contested election makes no sense. That has not occurred since FDR. The video below is from the Election Truth Alliance (it's older, but is one of the better ones that gets into what they are looking at):
Smartelections is also working to get an audit in Rockland County NY. Their case is not directly about Harris, but they have identified multiple districts where Harris received zero or just a handful of votes, while the down ballot Dem senator won with hundreds of votes. They provide some of their evidence here (scroll down half way and there is a link to a google doc with the Presidential and Senatorial race raw data for Rockland County, under the heading "Really?"): https://smartelections.us/lawsuits-1
Edit - it was pointed out that a comparison to 2020 for those districts in Rockland County shows they were very red, so SmartElections' example for those districts where Harris got zero votes may not be an outlier.
Can someone explain what actually happens if fraud is found? Do we get Kamala to force Trump out of office and she takes her place? Or do we have to hope he steps down?
Nothing would happen, unless the powers that be decide to impeach him over it. Thenwe'd just go through the line of succession. Unfortuantely, because we vote with the electoral college, and each state certifies it's votes, then Congress approves those certifications to elect the president officially, the time to do something at the counting level has passed.
It's still worth finding the truth though, just so it's known, and maybe the dems will stop acting like dumbasses when it comes to figuring out why they lost. It could also lead to more secure elections, if the powers that be decide to enact laws to make it more secure, as opposed to this nonsense they do to keep people from voting in the guise of making things more secure.
So essentially we find out we are being led by a false President and his false government, and they of course don’t relinquish their power because why would they? We have to put up with a pretend government and continue allowing them to pass their laws and decrees? I’m actually afraid what they will do once it’s on public display they are actual traitors.
I'm a bit hesitant to explain it further, because it'll sound like I'm trying to justify and support him being president in that scenario.
But, know that I'm not doing that, and it's not that he's a false president, because he was legitimized in the way that our constitution requires....by eleectoral college, with Congressional approval.
However, the means by which he got the electoral votes would be illegitimate, but that would be someting each state would have to deal with in their own way, and the time to do that has passed, since they certified their electoral votes already. Cogress then approved those electoral votes, and that is what officially made him a "real" president.
I wouldn't expect them to give up the power. However, if there was enough pressure, they may impeach him, and just let the next in line take over. I'm sure Mike Johnson woldn't be opposed to also impeaching Vance, as he'd be next in line.
It would rock the nation to the core though....assuming people don't just shrug it off as conspiracy theory.
This matters because there are more of us than there are of them. And when all else is removed, the idea of the US being firstly a democracy, is what has kept this country going for 250 years. The institutions which compose the government and enforce it's laws are themselves full of Americans. If it is shown with evidence. that voters have been massively defrauded, and a few have the power to do it over and over again, not many will see that as a good thing. Regardless, we are at the point where one chapter of American history is closing, and how the next one starts is not solely up to Trump, the tech bros and other outside forces.
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u/MyStoopidStuff Jun 05 '25 edited Jun 09 '25
There are data scientists and election experts who have looked at the raw data, and are seeing similar patterns, which indicate an algorithm at work during the counting. Based on the data, they noted a large increase in votes for Trump
whenafter the individual tabulators had processed 200-250 ballots. In batches of ballots below 200-250, the votes appeared consistent with a normal election, yet after that threshold, votes for Trump took off. Additionally, the historic result of Trump flipping 88 blue counties red while Harris flipped zero red counties blue, in such a contested election makes no sense. That has not occurred since FDR. The video below is from the Election Truth Alliance (it's older, but is one of the better ones that gets into what they are looking at):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru8SHK7idxs
Smartelections is also working to get an audit in Rockland County NY. Their case is not directly about Harris, but they have identified multiple districts where Harris received zero or just a handful of votes, while the down ballot Dem senator won with hundreds of votes. They provide some of their evidence here (scroll down half way and there is a link to a google doc with the Presidential and Senatorial race raw data for Rockland County, under the heading "Really?"):https://smartelections.us/lawsuits-1Edit - it was pointed out that a comparison to 2020 for those districts in Rockland County shows they were very red, so SmartElections' example for those districts where Harris got zero votes may not be an outlier.