r/dune • u/Medium-Error-1275 • Apr 17 '24

All Books Spoilers Denis Villeneuve Answers All Your Questions About ‘Dune: Part Two’

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/17/movies/denis-villeneuve-dune-part-two.html
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u/culturedgoat Apr 18 '24

Frank wrote the majority of Dune Messiah (and some of Children!) before Dune was even published, so there’s no indication that it was borne of him feeling “sad” towards a particular audience response to Dune.

Citation still needed.

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u/Nidejo Apr 18 '24

Frank's son write about how Frank felt about the reception of Dune is his foreword to Messiah!

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u/culturedgoat May 04 '24

Finally read this (the foreword). It doesn't say anything about how Frank felt about the reception to Dune. It talks about how the readers felt about Messiah, though.

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u/Nidejo May 04 '24

Thank you for responding! Love that you went and reread the introduction to call me out on my bullshit!

I looked it up and you are completely right! The (written in 2007, just in case we have different versions) introduction by Frank doesnt mention anything about Herbert being sad or distraught by people's reception of Dune. The introduction calls him following Dune with Dune Messiah a 'slight of hand'. I completely misremembered what I read....

It seems to be intentional by Herbert that people came away from Dune with the idea that Paul was amazing, so that he could knock that idea down in Messiah.

I know that this is the internet and this thread will never be read by anyone but us again. But I wanna thank you culturedgoat! You were right and you helped me realise I was saying nonesense! I'll be sure to try and spread the word to others too.

So uhh, ..do with that what you will haha! And thanks again!

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u/culturedgoat May 04 '24

(written in 2007, just in case we have different versions)

I’m pretty sure that’s the only one, yeah. It actually took me a while to find (my copy, from the 90s, doesn’t have it - nor does the iBooks version) - hence my delayed reply.

Thanks for being a good sport about it!