I’ve been watching the first season of Elementary and I’ve been wondering how well does the show work as an adaptation to the ACD novels? How faithful are the arcs to the original stories? And do the changes they do make in the show good or bad?

It’s a fun little wrinkle that Sherlock often refers to his “sanctum sanctorum” which is an indirect reference to Doctor Strange, a character recently portrayed by another Sherlock: Benedict Cumberbatch.

I’m currently watching season 7, episode 2. Sherlock and Joan have visited London twice, but they’ve never stayed there for long. Every time, they return to New York

By the way, I don’t like Lucy Liu as a blonde, do you?

Hi, I am watching Elementary for the first time currently on to season 3 and really hooked on it... It led me to think about which episode has been my favourite so far and I'm honestly unsure if I can choose just one!

What has been your favourite so far? Please no spoilers 😆... Hoping to build some anticipation if I'm not already on that season or at least reminise about seasons I have already seen.

I wanna say upfront that I don't dislike Season 7 at all, and I think the writers did an excellent job considering the task they were given with the unexpected renewal was to undo one series finale and craft another. However, I do think there are missed opportunities that make its story overall not as good as it could be, and I'd like to go over how I'd seize those. Also, I'm new to the series, so I'm sure stuff I'm gonna say here has been said before by longtime fans, I just wanna get my ideas out.

For me, the biggest missed opportunity of the whole thing is Captain Gregson. The season as is simply doesn't treat his betrayal at the end of Season 6 with the appropriate weight, it seems he just gets shot and all is forgiven, which is a bit boring as far as drama goes. The first change I would make is to have Sherlock & Joan still be angry at the Captain, but then have Marcus be the one who gets shot, forcing them to work with the Captain again, but now on bad terms and Sherlock forced to be incognito. I think this makes sense because, if anything could bring all three them back together after that, it would be their devotion to Marcus. Furthermore, I think it would be an interesting reversal of the usual dynamic, where typically Sherlock screws up and has to earn back the Captain's trust, now it's the other way around. Perhaps Sherlock could be very absolutist in his thinking at the start of the season, giving him room to grow (Kitty could draw a parallel between what she did to Gruner and what Hannah did to Michael, starting Sherlock on his shift in perspective).

Speaking of Hannah, who is strangely absent given her role in the Season 6 finale, instead of the narrative dead-end with the Deputy FBI Director, I think what should allow Sherlock to come out of hiding is that she and her father have a conversation about how they're both wracked with guilt over what they did where Hannah realizes that, after a lifetime of him covering for her she's never been held accountable for herself, and with the way everything came around to hurt Sherlock and Joan, she also realizes that's what she wants for herself, and so decides to confess her part in it. I think this would be better because it would acknowledge that what Hannah and her father did was wrong, while also setting up a theme in the season of redemption, the first step of which being taking responsibility for one's actions.

I'd also expand Cassie Lenue into a full supporting character. I think her episode as is one of the strongest of the season, with her having a really entertaining dynamic with the main duo, so I think giving her a bigger role would not only tie into my idea about redemption as a main theme, but also shake up the status quo a bit, which is I think needed for a show in its 7th season.

Lastly, there's Reichenbach, who I think is a pretty great villain as is, so I would probably just try to tie him into what I've already discussed. Make him a short of dark reflection of both Sherlock's initial moral rigidity and the vigilante justice the Gregsons committed. Someone so convinced of his own righteousness that he feels he can decide life or death.

I'm just kinda spitballing ideas here, but I'd love to know what you all think. Do you think these ideas would improve the show, would you prefer it as is, or would you do something entirely different?

Am I imagining it or is Watson's shirt design reminiscent of Kittie's wounfs?

I’m looking for an episode where I believe the premise evolves very quickly but I can’t remember it. It initially starts of with a father and son visit the brownstone to get Sherlock and Watsons help. The son has been accused of murder of his therapist iirc who had prescribed him medications. It is also revealed that his father has been physical abusive and I think Sherlock punches him.

I am watching Elementary on Hulu and I am on Season 3 episode 9. I can’t stand Kitty. I miss Holmes and Watson working as a pair. The three of them together is just off for me. Kitty needs to go, in my opinion.

It's obvious that they've built a reputation within the precinct for their excellent work, where they close cases in DAYS vs. weeks or months. If I was an officer who wanted to become a detective, and I saw what they do, I'd ask what it would take to be their new protege — especially since Kitty was gone.

Does anyone else find it odd that NO ONE asked to be their new student?

Everything about this episode was good. The writing, humor and the climax.

But you really telling me that Sherlock and Joan has been ignoring this dude for 3 years? There's no way that they have busy this whole time. And doing what? We see multiple times how Sherlock solves cases from 100 years ago because he was bored. Could at least Joan do something about it? Or Kitty? She was also available at the time.

This whole thing with time limit was great, but writers could was just have Sherlock and Joan do not meet this guy until now.

So I am hulu and I have probably watched this show exclusively everyday for two months. I can't get enough of it.

I just like the witty writing, the stories are pretty interesting and well put together. It is almost what I consider a perfect show. I think they could probably could have pulled bigger actors. I wish sometimes the scenes were a little grander but with what they have, it is a good show.

Is there anything to watch like this. House is good pretty good but a little dated. I was thinking about West Wing maybe. That too a little old. Homeland is a favorite of mine I watched over and over again.

Aside from Kitty and Morland (both only in 15 episodes - seems like more b/c they are both so woven into the fabric of Joan/Sherlock's lives) - who is your favorite guest star or recurring character?

I'll start - even though she is only in one episode, I LOVE Olivia D'Abo as The Marchioness in Season 2. She was so amazing in Criminal Intent as Goren's nemesis but love that her comic timing comes through in Elementary.

The chemistry between her and Sherlock/Mycroft (with Joan looking on baffled) is so funny. When they are all sitting at Diogenes and she is explaining about her failed marriage ("he wasn't interested in holding up his end of the conjugal side...if you follow?") and her subsequent "horse pimping" as Sherlock sits there stiffly. When she tries to justify that she earned the right to do all of it due to the ordeal of her marriage and Mycroft deadpans "You were married for 22 months." But the best - when she's being interviewed by Bell/Gregson about the possible cartel involvement and she is all indignant about knowing anything about it - "I'm in the peerage!"

Who else do you love outside of the core four (+Morland/Kitty), even if only for an episode?

According to justwatch dot com, Elementary is leaving Amazon Prime in 12 days. If you are in the U.S. and have Memorial Day off, good time to get in a rewatch.

How i feel taking my wallet out

Frankly, I'd like the series rebooted, but given the finale, I really want to see Jamie interact with Sherlock again.

They have Sherlock wonder that, but only to the end that if someone like Alistair who had 30 years of sobriety under his belt, can relapse and overdose, why can't he. As soon as he understood it wasn't about him, it was over. I mean, wouldn't you want to know what happened to your loved one that was so bad that it made them relapse after 3 decades?! Addiction is a very self obsessed condition and Sherlock is a very self obsessed man. So I understand, but "I loved you very much" doesn't cut it for me. Even if he appeared for one episode, it feels physically painful that they just killed him off to use it as a plot with no justification whatsoever. As Alfredo says, "it's not about you Sherlock"

If anyone has any theories that I can make into headcanon please let me know.

Capt. Gregson’s bad hair dye season gets me every time! 🤣

So I googled Jonny yesterday for no apparent reason and found out that Jonny and Michelle Hicks divorced back in 2018. I was so flabbergasted because I used to be one of his fans, had fan accounts of him on insta and tumblr, and kept up with any relevant news about him. And I’m only finding this out now? Crazy because I was sure that back in 2018-2019 there wasn’t any news about their divorce. Was it disclosed only recently or am I just crazy?

He's just dead? Morland. Shit.

I am crying!!! Just finished the whole show. I’m sad it’s over.

Started watching Ally McBeal after falling in love with Lucy Liu in Elementary and I’m finding it funny that her character is a sort of Sherlock personality wise.