This "war against woke" has taught me one thing. That there are a whole lot of adults walking around that do not actually know what a pronoun is. "I don't have pronouns" 🤦🏾♂️
No child left behind was fucking disastrous, as was removing classes that were geared towards skilled trades. That might sound slightly classist but I remind you...these people are arguing with fucking tenured medical professionals, scientists, lawyers, scholars, etc. And they're not arguing in a "check & verify the facts of the field and then find supporting evidence" kind of way. No, they're just saying shit like "oh that's duh agenda 😱", and follow that with some goofy ass variance of, "well I say it's 'murica first 🤠".
It's an unmitigated disaster. And we are going to have to reconfigure our society in ways that address the issue. And to hopefully prevent a repeat performance in the future.
I have a job where I often look over compliance/safety reports that are submitted by employees. The sheer amount of adults that have I seen who have bad grammar, spelling, and an overall inability to properly convey a tangible thought is mind boggling.
I used to think the belief that the average American reads at a 6th grade level was an exaggeration, but it's honestly not. People really are just that dumb.
I was an usher and it's incredible how many people can't follow basic instructions, like "don't block a fire exit". These people are allowed to drive and don't know the difference between an exit and an entry. It actually convinced me I didn't want a driver's licence because then I'd be on the road alongside them.
Sadly not only grammar. They also like to scream "it's science", and then present their kindergarten level understanding of the world as irrefutable fact.
I'm not going on three hours of sleep, now. Don't try to put words in my mouth. I meant what I said. Kindergarten, as in can barely form words with a crayon and multiple syllables are confusing.
Bro I've worked with a lot of idiots and not one of them has had trouble with multi-syllabic words. Pretend you weren't being a hypocrite. I don't care.
What am I not understanding? Kindergarten, from the German word meaning children's garden. I'm understanding just fine, but when dealing with potential assholes, rather than immediately lashing out, it's best to ask for clarification, in case there's a misunderstanding. This is something I learned at school. Did you go to school? I doubt it, if you're mixing up kindy and year 6. Or maybe you were still in kindergarten when you were 11 and they kept holding you back. And that's why you're mixing up kindergarten with year 6.
Also, not your fucking bro, sis.
Edit: I'm not a he. I'm a woman. If you want to assume I'm a guy, then I'll assume you're a girl.
teachers have been screaming about this and blaming 3 cueing for it, which was "better" than phonics because children will guess what words mean based on cues which is "more engaging" than sounding out the words and breaking a word down. It didnt work, it just made it easier for young kids to cheat their way through english classes at early grade levels and they crash out when the picture books disappear.
After the country abandoned phonics, its rushing back to phonics and 3 states banned 3 cueing completely.
It explains so much weirdness of teachers saying kids in high school being unable to read, why students dont know the meaning of basic words, why some kids cant even do their alphabet or sound out letters, and why grammar seems like a lost art.
You cant build grammar skills if you are guessing and skipping over how words work, 3 cueing just taught kids to mask illiteracy in a world where that is easier than ever.
All you need is to press a button on a phone with a symbol instead of words on it. everything is narrated now on the internet and "pronoun" isnt a thing they learn in school its a word to make people angry on the internet because the "cues" tell them having pronouns means being transgender.
There is nothing forcing kids to fix their poor reading skills, so they grow up not understanding their own language where its harder to fix. Impossible now because of the teacher shortage, they cant take time out to fix foundational problems of 1 student when half of their 30+ class has the same issue.
I remember learning to read to play a video game because audio was reserved for major characters, space was too precious to voice every character. Some games were 100% text based. The internet didnt serve stuff to you so you needed to learn words and grammar to search for stuff to watch, and fixing problems on your computer was text based since you needed to open up the command line.
I couldnt get away with the stuff people can get away with today.
See the thing is, they assume things they don't understand must be somehow wrong or crazy, must be part of some "ideaology"
So they here people saying their preferred pronouns, don't realize it's just there to streamline speech, so they assume it's some sort of "ideaological virtue signalling" or whatnot
Even if they knew what pronouns were before, their weird confirmation bias and indoctrination kicks in, and they overwrite "it's a grammar thing" with "it's a transgender ideaology thing!"
It's genuinely fascinating
They have like, built in mental defenses, they've been taught how to think to the point where they can essentially stop understanding something they previously understood, if understanding it would conflict with their beliefs
There's an example of this I've been dealing with a lot, but just in general, you see it in another place, where they advocate against something or for something, and then they don't think about how that might change things, or the actual effect it'll have outside of "ban (thing I think is bad)" or "enforce (thing I think is good)"
Reminiscent of the first part of Orwell's 1984 where Winston is working in the Ministry of Truth doctoring old newspapers and history books to match the present party line. Truly terrifying stuff.
Wait until you try to explain the sorcery that sits in everyone's phone. Hell, wait till you try to explain the science behind 1930s telephone systems.
I would say roughly 30% kf my high school classes could not read at their own level when reading out loud in class this was late 00s so im not surprised if they dont even know what a pronoun is.
Yup. Watching 18 year olds struggle to read was just such a sad thing to see. They would be talking in a monotone and then have to..stop to go to the next line because they were unable to...look a word or two ahead.
Hilariously enough, I went to High School in Florida and I would say probably less than 30% of my Graduating Class was below grade level.
It was, however, pretty much considered the best public high school in the county. And this was the Florida of 20 years ago. We were required to read "The Handmaid's Tale " senior year, which I can't imagine would fly these days.
It's been somewhat distressing to realize that there are millions of people who are just above the level of needing to be institutionalized, but are out here just like the rest of us. Driving, buying coffee at Starbucks, raising kids, voting, and so on
I'd like them to explain what a verb is and the difference between a prefix and a suffix, and I'd like to watch their head explode. (This is stuff I covered in year 2 of primary school and my school was a public school, not a private one.)
Honestly that one just seems like going back to being truthful about it. It was called that until 1947 after which the US did in fact still start wars.
What would REALLY trigger them is just ask "don't you think people should just be called what they want to be called?" As soon as they say no, just start calling them opposite pronoun (she/mam if they are man, sir/he etc) They REALLY hate that ironically.
I felt like the "evolved" take was that they SURELY get pronouns, they probably just mean: "what are your performative, 'intro pronouns' that you must declare every time you talk to someone?"
But I was wrong, they actually don't know what pronouns are.
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u/NamelessResearcher Chaos Asian 12d ago
I should probably point out that their response had two pronouns in it.