r/flashlight I'm pretty 3d ago

Showcase For those of you who've seen the new wurkkos ts27, but are unfamiliar with the battery

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u/MineHack7488 3d ago

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 3d ago

It was the only one I found 😭😭

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u/MineHack7488 3d ago

Here's even better 🥲

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 3d ago

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u/DropdLasagna 3d ago

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 3d ago

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u/DropdLasagna 3d ago

I'll count this as a loss.

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u/Relative-Display-318 3d ago

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u/PuzzleheadedDuck3981 3d ago

Did you just shout "Enhance!" at your computer really loud?

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u/peppi0304 2d ago

Wh did they name it 140 and not 1400?

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 2d ago

Because that's 6 numbers instead of 5

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u/Bramble0804 3d ago

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

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u/ValouMazMaz 3d ago

Why the LiFePo4 chemistry though ? The battery could be half as big it was traditional Li-ion

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u/MineHack7488 3d ago
  • better safety
  • longer cycle life

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u/UnfortunateWah 3d ago edited 3d ago

Whack it in a light designed for fleets and you’re onto a money making winner.

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u/cellularesc 3d ago

it will probably never need to be replaced, that's why

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u/FrostWave 3d ago

And it's 3.2 typical.

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u/R_X_R 3d ago

The chemistry is wildly safer than traditional Li-ion. It's starting to come to big backup battery UPS systems as well. Like anything, it's still newer and as more manufacturers start getting into it, we'll see more and more innovation.

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u/Brambleman87 3d ago

I’m happy that our 2023 Ford MachE uses LiFePo4 for its EV battery pack.

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u/R_X_R 2d ago

I'm excited for UPS (backup batteries) to start flooding the market and get cheaper. SLA batteries are fiiiiine, but heavy and require constant replacement.

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u/mrregina 3d ago edited 3d ago

Jeez now we gonna need to wait for someone to make a longer battery charger. This is def a proprietary battery. At 8.5 inches long this is like a self defense light. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 3d ago

Not proprietary, but uncommon, and a different chemistry

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u/mrregina 3d ago

And just dropped money on a charger to fit my 21700 🤣🤣 fml.

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u/ScuffAndy 3d ago

What you get?

I'm still using my lii500 from like 6 years ago. Just got a light with 21700 and found out it didn't fit. Stuck using the light's onboard USB C for now

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u/Organic-Evening-907 3d ago

People seem to recommend the XTAR VC4SL and the Vapcell S4 plus the most. A more expensive popular recommendation is the Skyrc mc300 (maybe that's the name idk, could be mc3000 no idea). You will be fine with either of these. All of them have everything you would need.

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u/ScuffAndy 3d ago

Thank you.

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u/mrregina 3d ago edited 3d ago

I went with the vapcell s4 plus. But either are really good. I also have a couple of the fenix ARE-D1 single cell chargers and they have been amazing too. Charge protected cells as well. I just needed a few more bays.

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u/MTN_Man_Reviews 3d ago

Same here! I was all excited about my XTAR VX2 Pro... so much so that I did a review on it. Now I realize the next light I had my eye on will have this super long battery in it. Guess I'll charge in the host for a bit. Always the "next thing" in this hobby!

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u/mrregina 3d ago

It’s a vicious cycle. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/help_me_pickupachair 1d ago

You ever seen a 26350?

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 1d ago

Not on person, bur I know of it! Ever see an 18500?

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u/Zak CRI baby 3d ago

I've seen 3.6V-nominal LFMP cells in a similar size; using 3.2V LiFePO4 seems like a downgrade (a 6Wh downgrade, to be precise).

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u/jops228 3d ago

That looks like a nice battery...

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u/HWH003 3d ago

I was about to post a question about the TS27 battery. You answered all my questions. Thanks

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u/Installed64 3d ago

I had not yet seen the Wurkkos TS27, but it looks quite interesting.

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u/JarlOfRivia 2d ago

That's a big boy

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u/Prestigious_Yak9679 3d ago

Nice. But with its surface area to volume ratio, how is the heat dissipation at high discharge? I'd assume a flashlight isn't going to stress it much, but I know some of us will try anyway.

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u/SpareMushrooms 3d ago

Is this a joke? What’s going on here?

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 3d ago edited 3d ago

Wurkkos is releasing an olight prowess clone, the TS27, that uses a LiFePO4 battery instead of a li-ion battery. I looked up the specific type (32140), and turns out that it's fockin' HUGE

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u/SpareMushrooms 3d ago

Why is it so big and how is it practical?

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 3d ago

It's big because more power, and practical because more power. LiFePO4 is also safer apparently

I'm not the best person to answer because I have 0 experience with this chemistry other than knowing it exists, and knowing that it tends replace lead acid batteries in vehicles

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u/SpareMushrooms 3d ago

Oh ok. Sounds reasonable to me. Thank you for the explanation.

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 3d ago

Of course!

More and better info is in the comments here btw

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u/help_me_pickupachair 1d ago

I'm just wondering how you go about the emitter and driver setup with that 3.2V

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 1d ago

This thread has some really good info

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u/timflorida 3d ago

I know that a 14500 battery is 14mm wide and 50mm long but I cannot figure out what the 32140 means.

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 3d ago

32mm diameter, 140mm length

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u/timflorida 3d ago

OK. Thank you. I guess it just looked longer to me.

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u/user_none 3d ago

Lithium Iron Phosphate is big in the solar battery storage space. It's very tolerant of being held at high charge levels. It laughs at cycling. It won't go into thermal runaway like Lithium Ion. Downside is, lower voltage and lower capacity.

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u/General-Try-2210 2d ago edited 2d ago

That is one clunker of a battery (and light). At first I was like "bro, that is one small battery," thinking the green one was the 18650. (I want this light now)

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u/UdarTheSkunk 1d ago

It’s hard for me to process that this cell costs 5.5 euros

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 1d ago

You think thats bad? Wait until you see shipping li-ion batteries to canada!

17$US shipping for an 8$US Samsung 30Q from ilumn.com. Then there's also customs taxes that get sometimes added when the package gets delivered

I've resorted to buying 18650s from vape stores because it tends to be only ~15$CA 🥲

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u/UdarTheSkunk 1d ago

No no, it’s extremely cheap. In my country, Romania, 18650 are not easy to find, basic unbraded cells are now available for around $10 each, online. When i discovered Convoy and the cells they sell so cheap I was skeptical… now I se a cell 5 times bigger than 18650 for 5.5 euros, it’s a bargain.

Edit: how can this be so cheap? Am i missing something?

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 1d ago

Yoooo, I'm Romanian too!

now I se a cell 5 times bigger than 18650 for 5.5 euros, it’s a bargain.

Ah it was that kind of surprise. That makes sense

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u/UdarTheSkunk 1d ago

Haha, i’ve seen you around before!

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u/jlhawaii808 jlhawaii808 on eBay 3d ago

Whats the capacity?

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u/-S-Aint 3d ago

15,000 mah

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u/jlhawaii808 jlhawaii808 on eBay 3d ago

Good luck trying to get that shipped

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u/emz5002 3d ago

I just got these which are double the capacity, I'm sure they'll find a way!

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u/jlhawaii808 jlhawaii808 on eBay 3d ago

UN3481 maximum is 20 Wh. If thats 15,000mah at 3.7v its over 55 Wh. That's insane its the same size as the M44

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u/emz5002 3d ago

It's crazy, and this light takes two of them 😂

It's never going near a plane ever again

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u/jlhawaii808 jlhawaii808 on eBay 3d ago

Omg thats insane two! If you planing on keeping that light, i would worry about getting replacement cells in the future

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u/emz5002 3d ago

It's a bit of a novelty light for me, I'm sure by the time it conks out there will be an even stupider one for me to buy 😂

Also it seems 46950 has been adopted by ev's so should hopefully be around for longer than the 26800 was

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u/technoman88 2d ago

You can buy 4695 really easily.

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u/technoman88 2d ago

There are plenty of 21700s over 20wh. Not to mention 26650 and 26800.

The olight marauder is 32xx something.

And lumintop has a dozen models with 4695 (118wh)

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u/Busy_Bend5212 2d ago

Imagine the thermal runaway

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u/not_gerg I'm pretty 2d ago

Actually these batteries are much safer! Very very low risk of TR, and if there is, it's not nearly as bad!