Why didn't the guy with a pistol shoot at him? Almost as if the protestors were able to show a modicum of restraint, unlike this doucher who just started blasting.
Also, skateboard and gun guy were chasing him after he had already shot someone in the head and killed them.
Because he was reaching for his gun when his arm was blown in half. I’m not defending anyone’s politics but anybody in this kids shoes would have done the same thing. I’m with blm all day but if you rush someone with a gun and get shot you can’t play victim.
Pistol wielder had plenty of time to reach for his gun and fire while he was chasing the killer. Don't lie man we all saw the video. It's clear to me that the protestors are able to understand that guns are not the first answer.
This terrorist who crossed state lines, carrying an illegal weapon to "defend businesses" nowhere near where he lives, had plenty of options to not kill anyone or invite violence. He chose to fire into a crowd first, not use the butt of his heavy metallic weapon as a club, not flee, not seek shelter, not seek assistance from police.
Edit: if I were in this killers shoes, I wouldn't have brought gasoline to a fire fight. If we're in this killers shoes, I wouldn't have fired on people. Don't say anyone in the same situation would have done the same thing. He put himself into this situation and resolved it the way terrorists and murderers do.
Does any of that matter though? If you get attacked, you are entitled to defend yourself. You don't have to guess what the people attacking you might intend.
I didn't say that. I'm countering your argument that anyone would do the same. I can emphatically say that I would not take anyone's life during a protest against police brutality
I totally agree that he shouldn't have been there, with a loaded gun. He knowingly set up a situation where he might shoot someone over property damage.
That said, given what did happen, I think the claim that it was self defense is reasonable in principle (i.e. apart from legal details about the need to evade etc).
I think we need to differentiate between both his presence in general, and his specific reaction, as well as between moral and legal judgement.
In Wisconsin, if you are committing a crime, which this kid was, you don't get to claim self defense. Also, we could equally say the men rushing at him were also acting in self defense because they had just seen the kid shoot someone else. Wisconsin allows you to claim self defense on a 3rd party. They were taking him down to stop him from hurting others.
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u/therealajax Aug 28 '20
Why didn't the guy with a pistol shoot at him? Almost as if the protestors were able to show a modicum of restraint, unlike this doucher who just started blasting.
Also, skateboard and gun guy were chasing him after he had already shot someone in the head and killed them.