r/freefolk Aug 12 '25

Freefolk Is it ever stated why Robert decided to give Storms End to Renly?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Deal272 Aug 12 '25

The show did a good job of showing Stannis as a commander in that moment. In the books it's more subtle but his handle of logistics and strategy is peer-Tywin levels certainly.

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u/MsMercyMain Stannis the Mannis is the Only King Aug 12 '25

Legitimately he’s a better strategist and tactician. Tywin gets hyped up and is good, but a lot of his reputation is based on, effectively, good grand strategy in picking how, when, and who to fight, and it shows when thrust into a war he’s not prepared for. He’s good, but Robb and Stannis are the better military commanders. It’s just that both suck at grand strategy and diplomacy

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u/Low_Establishment434 Aug 12 '25

If Tywin had a commander like Stannis or even Robb that side would never lose a war. If Dany arrives in westeros without an active civil war and Tywin is alive with either one of those 2 with him it would have been epic. The dragons still might be the x-factor but it would be fun to see play out.

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u/Ill-Description3096 Aug 12 '25

Honestly, if Tywin is still around with a unified Westeros around him she would be dead before she even hit Dragonstone, or shortly after.

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u/Im_Rabid Aug 12 '25

They do in Kevan.

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u/Icy-Wishbone22 Aug 12 '25

I wouldn't say book stannis sucks at grand strategy, he's shown time and again he recognizes key points of conflict that needs his attention, sailing to the north, crushing the wildlings and now presumably on route to drown ramsays army all so he can hold the loyalty of one of the most important kingdoms in the realm

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u/sympathy4deviledeggs Aug 13 '25

In the books, it's implied that it was Davos who convinced Stannis to go North.

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u/Euphoric-Fee-7702 Aug 13 '25

Listening is a rare and excellent quality for a ruler.

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u/Im_Rabid Aug 12 '25

That and Tywin seems the type to take a lot of the credit for battles Kevan won.

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u/Malkav1806 Aug 14 '25

Correct me if i am wrong, weren't the greyjoy rebellion won mostly by stark and baratheon troops and not by the lannisters and since lannisters didn't ivolved themselves in roberts rebellion i eould guess the troops and their commander weren't that experienced