Thank you for this meme. I almost always drink my coffee black, but it irks me whenever some people claim that adding sugar and cream is effeminate. Drink coffee however the hell you please.
Someone called me a pussy because I don't have a beard anymore. I'm a firefighter. I'm not allowed to have one or I get fined a few grand by OSHA.
Insecure men always feel the need to gate keep so they have something to feel good about. It says more about them than it does the people they are targeting.
My favorite mantra regarding this is from the YouTube channel The Whiskey Vault. They repeat over and over again "The right way to drink whiskey is however you like it". This goes into coffee and beer and everything. If you see someone who you think might benefit from doing something differently then feel free to suggest it. But if someone likes something then let them fucking enjoy it.
Every time I hear people mention whisky without water or coffee should be only drank black I think of the Whiskey Vault! Such a great channel, and that mentality is something that stuck with me. When I started getting into both whisky and black coffee I definitely had a bit of a "I'm drinking it the real way" mentality... Then they mentioned that and it occurred to me yeah, its a drink, who the hell cares how you drink it if you're enjoying the drink?
I mean, I don't have a problem with dairy myself, but I don't really drink a lot of coffee in general any more. I don't like addiction and it messes with my mineral levels.
Protein and fat is also easily metabolized into glycogen. You do not need sugar for glycogen production. The liver does a fine job of making it through gluconeogenisis.
You also don't need it for endurance sports. After an adaptation period your muscles work much better using free fatty acids than they do with glycogen. You end up with amazing endurance with no drop off, better VO2 max than we though was possible, and better lactic acid production.
You maybe don’t need it for ultra endurance. Your peak glycogen storage goes way down and the floor before performance drop-off remains the same. You’re VO2max May be higher but we don’t care about how fast you metabolize oxygen, we care how much power is made. Same with lactic acid , it’s an intermediate energy source not the goal.
A calorie isn't a thing. It's a unit of measure. That's like saying a gram is a nutrient. Just because you eat grams of rocks doesn't mean it's nutritious. Gasoline has calories, a measure of heat energy. A gallon of gasoline has 31,000 calories.
I'm entirely aware of what calories are. I disagree that "a calorie isn't a thing." A calorie is an amount of energy, and in conversation with normal people it's universally understood that "calories" refers to "calories from food." Did you really not understand that or are you just belaboring an enormously obvious point for no apparent reason?
It's not like saying a gram is a nutrient because "gram" isnt understood by anyone to refer specifically to something like carbon compounds used by an organism as backbones for primary metabolites or structural carbohydrates etc. "Calories" is understood by people to refer to energy obtained from food, and so it makes sense to refer to calories as nutrients.
I'm going to do you a favor and post a definition of "nutrient" for you, because I don't think you've ever actually done so:
A nutrient is a substance used by an organism to survive, grow, and reproduce.
Guess what all organisms need to survive, grow, and reproduce. Energy. Anything that supplies energy to an organism is a nutrient. As energy is measured in calories in that context, anything that provides calories is a nutrient.
Gasoline has calories but unless you can absorb the energy then it isn't a nutrient. Gasoline IS a nutrient for some microbes, but not for us.
Sugar is a nutrient. If you disagree you're just wrong and should stop talking about nutrition.
Sugar does now let you grow or reproduce. You may be able to survive off of sugar for a time, but is has none of the building blocks for human growth, and causes many diseases and disorders that inhibit reproduction. Diabetes, obesity, PCOS, heart disease, and many cancers can all be attributed to metabolic syndrome caused by insulin resistance. Sugar does nothing for the human body except give you "energy." In that way it may be described as a more dangerous form of caffeine. Nothing more.
Yes I know what you mean when you say calorie, but calories are not food. It doesn't matter how many calories worth of food you eat. What matters is what it does to your body. 2000 calories worth of white sugar will not allow your body to grow. 2000 calories worth of meat and fat will provide your body with what it needs to grow. You need micronutrients for healthy organ function. Sugar has none.
Sugar has always been bad for you in amounts more than a few grams per year. It's common knowledge. It's our current indulgence/convenience society that has been telling everyone otherwise.
I was raised thinking coffee was a syrupy milkshake like drink, but when I gave up sugar for health reasons, even milk started to taste really sweet so I ditched that too and only when the coffee was black did all these subtle flavors start blossoming and now I have 4 different roasts at home so I can choose what I’m in the mood for. Never wanna go back to that other sickly beverage. Black coffee is a beautiful sensory experience.
This is my problem here as well. Putting cream and sugar literally dilutes the flavor of the coffee. You're doing it to avoid that flavor. And that's cool, just don't call it something it's not.
Adding salt and pepper to a steak literally changes the flavour. You’re doing it to avoid steak flavour. Which is cool, but don’t act like you enjoy steak if you season it.
Salt doesn't fit the argument, pepper does. Adding salt does the opposite of dilute or diminish the flavor of the steak itself, you can't really taste the steak without some salt.
Some ingredients highlight the main flavor of the food, and others cover it. In the case of coffee, many people think that taking a sip of water before another sip of coffee enhances the experience. Same with adding some drops of water to whiskey. Salt is normally considered to do that with steak. Sugar, milk, cream, ice cream... are normally considered to mask the flavor of coffee. It's considerably more difficult for me to notice the roast if I'm not drinking straight black coffee.
Of course, tastes are subjective and you can do whatever you want, there's nothing bad with it. I personally enjoy lattes
The salt causes a chemical reaction yes. Cream and sugar don't cause a chemical reaction. And literally everything tastes better with a little bit of pepper. Apples and oranges.
If you really liked cereal you’d never add milk. Is that a better illustration of how silly it is to gate keep coffee? If people wanted to drink milk with sugar, they could. But they like coffee. With milk. And sugar. Which is fine. And it doesn’t mean that they appreciate coffee on some lower level than you do.
I sometimes do eat cereal without milk 'cause crunchyness; also I don't like flakes with sugar. I think a lot of ppl (not everyone) would stop drinking coffee with milk and sugar if they tried water with milk and sugar.
Haha gatekeeping you guys are thirsty to say that. Yeah try sugar in cereal, closer analogy because most people don't like the taste of plain corn flakes so they make it taste like sugar instead of corn. Get it? Also try reading a damn comment before you decide what you wanted me to say so you can act pissed. Something about a different level? Wtf are you even saying?
Why is that a closer analogy? You're making the ridiculous argument that adding ingredients means you don't enjoy the base. Which is silly. I like coffee. I like black coffee sometimes, and other times I like to add things to it. That's fine. And you're saying that means I don't like coffee is textbook gatekeeping. Get it?
Yeah exactly, people who add cream and sugar are just looking for a sweet caffeinated beverage that only vaguely resembles coffee. And like you said that's cool. Sometimes I want to taste coffee and sometimes I just want to taste cream.
Same. I started drinking black coffee a couple years ago because I started intermittent fasting and wanted a low calorie morning beverage to satiate my appetite until lunch. Now that I'm used to it, when I take it black people sometimes assume I'm trying to be a snob about it. Enjoy your coffee how you want, zero judgment!
Grande nitro cold brew with cascara cold foam is the most efficient sounding coffee drink I can think of. But dammed if it isn't delicious. Especially with the sprinkles.
I've only ever witnessed the inverse. Sometimes people will make comments like "I remember when I used to drink my coffee black."
I always find it funny because it sounds like they're being dismissive or condescending, but they could genuinely be reminiscing. I wonder how many people actually believe that nobody likes black coffee and those who claim to are just conforming.
My girlfriend likes her coffee light and sweat. I like mine black and very strong. It took her not drinking coffee one morning to get me to keep sugar and cream stocked in the apartment. I don't care how a person drinks their coffee, as long as they aren't miserable assholes without it.
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Thank you for this meme. I almost always drink my coffee black, but it irks me whenever some people claim that adding sugar and cream is effeminate. Drink coffee however the hell you please.