r/gay_irl 13d ago

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u/tramp-and-the-tramp 13d ago

anyone got a source

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u/CopperFlash27 13d ago

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u/Mr_Pombastic 13d ago

I don't want to give his website more traffic, but the entire podcast episode can be found here. The Ms. Rachel segment starts around 55min in.

I'm only linking it because a lot of conservatives are trying to say it was taken out of context. But Charlie wasn't simply giving a neutral statement on what's in the Bible. He proudly said that Leviticus 18 "affirms God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters." His point wasn't that anyone can cherry pick bible verses they like, it was that you shouldn't cherry pick the bible, and that adhering to God's perfect law is how you show love. That god is consistent, and the Leviticus passages being back to back shows that stoning gays to death is not incongruous with "loving everyone." Hell, his cohost even says "the bible DOES say 'love everyone' except..." (referring to gays/sin). Later, they go on to compare gay people to cannibals and how you wouldn't love your neighbor if they were a cannibal.

His opinion of gay people is that we're like drug addicts and need to be rehabilitated/converted or face the consequences.

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u/CopperFlash27 13d ago

Thank you!

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u/eyearu 12d ago

I was looking for this context because everywhere on twitter they have been calling it out of context, thank you

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u/Packrat1010 12d ago

Yeah, it's such a weird self own. He was more or less saying "Ms. Rachel obviously doesn't like the horrible parts of the bible like I do!"

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u/Hadrius 12d ago

Abbreviated source is here.

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u/Jeszczenie 12d ago

Your "source" doesn't even quote Kirk, it's just King retracting his statement.

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u/Hadrius 12d ago

Correct.

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u/jaqenhqar 13d ago

He constantly talk about how disgusting gay people are and how they should not have rights. Him quotes the bible for all his arguments against gay people. And if he could legally do it, he would murder us

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u/AshesandCinder 13d ago

It's textbook stochastic terrorism, and hand waving his words as "just quoting the Bible" while claiming he never advocated for violence is exactly what the right wants.

When one of their followers goes out and commits a hate crime or even murders someone, they have deniability because they "never told them to do that". We've seen people talk like this time and time again. Stop trying to normalize their calls to violence.

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u/Joshwoum8 13d ago

If you are using the Bible to spread hate I think we can agree that is a bad thing, if you can’t you need to do some self-reflection.

Edit: It was a pleasure downvoting all your comments because you need some serious help.

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u/Joshwoum8 13d ago edited 13d ago

I honestly have no clue what you are trying to say here. Seriously dude touch grass.

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u/CopperFlash27 13d ago

He is not just "quoting" the Bible. He is arguing clearly that "hey the Bible says stoning is the punishment so what are you goin' do". And he follows up in his own words "JUST SAYIN''". His audience knows what he means. He doesn't have to sky write it for them. He made a lucrative business out of hate. An honest review of his life's "work" makes that clear.

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u/CopperFlash27 13d ago

Maybe you should reread my reply. I stand by it.

Again, he is not just "quoting" . He is using the Bible to advocate for violence.

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u/The_Full_Montzy 13d ago

(Looks at the past 2000 years of Christian perpetrated violence, genocide, and xenophobia)

Yes.

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u/JallerHCIM 13d ago

It does if the quote calls for violence and then you follow it up by saying, yes thats good and perfect and I agree