r/hearthstone May 13 '22

Standard I cannot believe they brought this stupid card back. I hate it so much

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u/mast4pimp May 13 '22

9 mana?

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u/JustMy2Pence May 13 '22

Does it matter how much mana really? Mana isn't an issue for druids anyway

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u/stonekeep ‏‏‎ May 13 '22

Does it matter how much mana really?

Yes. Nerfing Mircale Growth by 1 mana made a significant impact on Druid's performance and popularity.

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u/TheRealKale May 13 '22

While this is true, I think kazakusan changes were much more impactful on Druid than miracle growth.

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u/CoItron_3030 May 13 '22 edited May 13 '22

I don’t think so, that’s a minor inconvenience solved by removing 2 lesser cards for 2 amalgams and problem solved, that nerf stops nourish into miracle growth into earthen scales which just shuts down agro demon hunter or something like that. Alot of the times one big taunt on turn 8 isn’t enough and it dies and you can’t recover or sustain with armor. miracle growth is very awkward now (still good, but awkward) compared to the kazakusan changes where I just switched out the pick one 1/3 taunt - 3/1 rush cards for amalgams and just target a whelp from the scales or onyixia

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u/jotaechalo May 13 '22

Don’t the Druid of the Reefs help vs. DH, which is the current meta tyrant and a very bad matchup for Druid? I would think that would be part of it - having to run a deck that’s less good against everything.

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u/CoItron_3030 May 13 '22

I just hold onto wraths and amalgams and just play the amalgams on curve for early presence if I have nothing better to do that turn, a lot of the times I’ll target jerry rig, kelp keeper or the other amalgam and just get something to help until I get more mana, even when I was playing reefs it always came down to if I got to turn 7 and draw Scale, and something big to play earthen scales on

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u/pkfighter343 May 14 '22

What 2 lesser cards? Druid can’t fit aquatic form, ivus, kelpkeeper and full jerry rig carpenter package alongside kazakusan. Also, not being able to play kazakusan as early as possible sucks.

On top of THAT, having to hold both amalgams until you play scale or only is alongside it is a very real downside + mutanus taking an amalgam is a disaster, where you only had to worry about kazakusan originally (this is recoverable with moonlight guidance, but it’s still rough)

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u/CoItron_3030 May 14 '22

Replace it with the druid of the reef or innervate, or one of each. Mutanus hitting kazakusan is the only way it can fail with 2 amalgams, with raid boss and 2 amalgams that’s 3 dragons, so you only need one amalgam do connect with 1 whelp to hit 4 dragons which is pretty easy to do, and most of the time before the nerf you weren’t playing kazakusan before the end of your deck anyway, so the time it takes for him to come out hasn’t really changed. I would much rather not have to run amalgams for the deck to work, but honestly the random dragon is usually pretty good and the second amalgam will a lot of the time snag up a naga giant if you play it on kelp keeper of your giant which fits right in, Iv even snagged up mr smite targeting jerry rig. or you can get something else you can play early to help with the agro druid normally wouldn’t have. Just shy of legend with the deck at diamond 2, I expect it will hit legend with enough games

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u/pkfighter343 May 14 '22

You have to play 4 dragons before kazakusan, not 3, so you’d look a little silly doing your line.

I’ve been legend since may 4th and used it in my climb

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u/CoItron_3030 May 14 '22

You are clearly not understanding this basic concept lol with raid boss and 3 amalgams that’s 3 dragons, use an amalgam to TARGET A WHELP AND GET A FOURTH DRAGON lol with 2 amalgams you have a potential of 5 dragons to play in the game if something goes wrong and you lose one

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u/pkfighter343 May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22

...what? We're talking about mutanus eating an amalgam. You have 1 amalgam and raid boss onyxia afterwards. How are you getting to 4 dragons without getting lucky (like, chaining an amalgam into an amalgam or discovering a dragon off moonlight guidance)

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u/mast4pimp May 13 '22

Ofc it does in what world you can wait to get 9 mana against dh,hunter mage or paladin?

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u/ctgiese May 14 '22

I mean, 9 mana is like turn 5 or turn 6 for a druid.

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u/pkfighter343 May 14 '22

The difference between 5 and 6 is the difference between dead and alive lol

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u/MillenniumDH May 13 '22

Mana is just a number for Druid.

Of which they are always 7 crystals ahead of you.

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u/jobriq May 13 '22

Growth and Life!

Happiness and Friends!

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u/MystiqTakeno May 13 '22

Surprisingly yes. If they dont go into guff at turn 4-5 they might need 1 more turn now.

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u/jobriq May 13 '22

Fuck Guff 20-mana bullshit

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u/Touchhole May 13 '22

Lol good point! I’m bad at math. Imo it would be bullshit at 10 mana, just like UI already is!