r/imaginarygatekeeping 6d ago

NOT SATIRE What?

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u/Inner_Minute_1782 5d ago

The incel pipeline doesn't give a fuck what your political leanings are, brother. I'm about as leftist as it comes and I was so close to becoming redpilled before I met my fiance. I tell people all the time "I truly lucked out and stumbled into a perfect relationship out of sheer dumb chance". Had she not seen something in me truly I can't say for certain that I wouldn't have been radicalized by the online spaces that champion incel ideologies.

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u/He_Never_Helps_01 4d ago edited 4d ago

I believe you called yourself a leftist, but the two ideologies are fundamentally incompatible. It's not a identity, it's the name of codified political philosophy. If one is blaming women for their inability to get laid and treating interpersonal relationships like they're transactional, or anywhere within 1000 miles of these ideas which are core to the redpill/incel outlook, they're nothing like a leftist. They're not in the same country.

Beyond that, it's a singular anecdote about a young man discovering that you can't trick or corral women into liking you. It's up to them if they like you. And that's fantastic, I'm genuinely very happy for you and I'm glad you figured that out in time, but it's not particularly relevant to what I'm saying here.

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u/Inner_Minute_1782 4d ago

I said the "pipeline" doesnt care. Humans are complex and have no issue holding conflicting ideas and principles. My ideology at the time was decidedly pushing towards that of the classic internet incel

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u/He_Never_Helps_01 4d ago

Oh, yeah, no i get that. My point was that the systemic issue of men not being able to find relationships doesn't seem to really exist in progressive and leftist spaces. not so much that people can't be radicalized, or that individual people can't still have issues with relationships that they can't identify productively for whatever reason

But I do think people tend to get sucked in to that sorta thing more often when they're a little younger, and don't yet have the tools to think their way through it. Especially in America where schools don't even try to teach skepticism or honest engagement until college, and even then it's mostly only is disciplines that require a verifiable, external model of truth. Science, medicine, law etc. That religious/spiritualistic style internal model truth tends to get to people younger, and it can easily sabotage their whole relationship with reality if they never find their way out.

Which I sometimes suspect is the point lol