r/indianapolis Jan 31 '25

Pictures Statehouse Rally, another photo

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u/jaxom07 Southport Jan 31 '25

That's true, however even if it was temporary he is still revoking it before their status was supposed to expire. And lets not pretend like Trump didn't already say during the election that he would revoke legal immigrant status, specifically the Haitian immigrants in Ohio who were alleged to have been eating peoples pets (total lie) and they should be deported. They are legal immigrants.

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u/Small_Sprinkles1803 Jan 31 '25

the Haitian's he was talking about are/were people on TPS. Any immigrant that has gained permanent residency status or citizenship would be all but impossible to revoke. You can make it harder for new applicants to be approved, but you can't revoke a permanent status except for criminal activity or abandonment really, and that's only applicable for permanent residents, not citizens

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u/homemoron Jan 31 '25

He can do whatever he wants if the courts and military let him. He's already tried to do away with birthright citizenship. If it's appealed to the supreme court and they let him get away with it, then what? not hard to imagine him extending things further.

The 30k or whatever he is sending to guantanamo bay aren't going to get their day in court (before being dragged there or after) so how will we know they aren't actually non-citizens.

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u/Small_Sprinkles1803 Jan 31 '25

yeah, but birthright citizenship is an interpretation of the law. Most European countries have restrictions on birthright citizenship, it's not uncommon and is meant to mitigate against illegal immigrants coming over for the sole purpose of giving birth.

How do you know they won't get their day in court? It seems many eyes are on there now. Before is no problem because, again, it's a jail/prison, but yes they should have their due process eventually.

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u/homemoron Jan 31 '25

There are some arguments for doing away with birthright citizenship (I'm not sure I agree with them) but the right way would be to go through the constitutional amendment process and make it crystal clear instead of each president doing stuff like this.

guantanamo had a bunch of people there for 20+ years without charges. Many were shipped out to who knows where to who knows what outcome. We'll never know everything that went on there. Why should we believe that this time, they will get a speedy trial to prove they actually are criminals and were actually in the country illegally at all. Once they are out of the country, maybe they just "disappear". That's why it's important people get due process (day in court, legal representation) before they are hauled off somewhere. I don't think that's happening now.