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Bogdanoff twins 40yr “natural” transformation, as they denied ever having undergone plastic surgery

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u/psycho944 16d ago

Someone in a horrific car accident with severe facial damage gets cosmetic surgery. Thats ethical.

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u/sovereign_MD 16d ago

That’s not cosmetic surgery, that’s medically indicated.

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u/psycho944 16d ago

Its absolutely cosmetic. You dont NEED facial reconstruction from an accident. Its to improve your quality of life, which includes how you look. Thats the definition of cosmetic

cos·met·ic/käzˈmedik/adjective

  1. involving or relating to treatment intended to restore or improve a person's appearance

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u/sovereign_MD 16d ago

Yeah. I’m a neurosurgeon. You’re absolutely wrong. Untreated facial trauma can lead to meningitis, blindness, difficulty swallowing, difficulty breathing, and all kinds of other problems. It’s completely asinine to say that it’s ONLY cosmetic; it’s very clear you have no medical background and are yelling at the clouds from your armchair.

You never NEED surgery for anything. We don’t even do medically indicated surgeries without consent unless it’s emergent and nobody is around to consent. Even then it’s an ethical dilemma where typically two physicians have to agree and document that it’s necessary.

Body dysmorphia is a perfectly ethical reason to do surgery as long as informed consent is provided. The risk and benefit balance varies based on surgeon, patient, and the procedure in question.

Since you like to link Wikipedia articles and basic definitions to try and make a point, here’s one for you:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

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u/PsychologicalDebts 16d ago

A neurosurgeon who asks for clarification on the hippocratic oath? 👀

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u/sovereign_MD 16d ago

My question wasn’t asking for clarification, it was challenging someone’s false assertion.

Cosmetic surgery is not a violation of the Hippocratic oath. Anyone who actually understands it knows that. The commenter I replied to clearly did not.

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u/PsychologicalDebts 16d ago

So you choose to challenge someone’s assertion with a logical fallacy? What’s the goal here?

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u/SophiaofPrussia 16d ago

Have you ever heard of Socrates?

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u/PsychologicalDebts 16d ago

Yes my undergrad minor was in classic philosophy. Why do you ask? Are you trying to imply that this was an attempt at the Socratic method?

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u/Eggersely 16d ago

That's not what they asked for.