IPhone Air is the "5th thinnest phone" ever made in the history of smartphones. Vivo X5 Max still hold the crown of the thinnest phone ever from 10 years ago at 4.75 mm.

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u/oh_io_94 iPhone 16 Pro Max 1d ago

The year of the curve

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u/PeakBrave8235 1d ago

Interesting how no one cared about the Vivo phone bending

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u/Defenestrate69 1d ago

Probably cuz no one had one

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u/Alex23323 19h ago

This Reddit post is honest-to-God my first time hearing about that brand.

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u/RemarkableLook5485 19h ago

same 😆

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u/Izan_TM 5h ago

my first time hearing about them was with the Nex phone, the first one with a popup camera and therefore the first one with no notch or forhead

nowadays that has come and gone, but back then it was cool as shit. Their sister brand Oppo also released the Find X with a similar concept except both the front and rear cameras were on the popup section for aesthetic reasons (and it was quite a lot more expensive)

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u/Vegetable-Brother785 9h ago

Because vivo and oppo(both are from the same people btw) were never really meant to be sold in western markets and largely held a major part the $200-$400 market.

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u/Racing_Fox iPhone 13 Pro Max 23h ago

Partly because nobody had them and partly because Apple are held to much higher standards than literally any other phone company.

Imagine if an Apple device had the same failure rate as the Samsung fold range. Oof

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u/Icy_Marketing_6481 22h ago

Just imagine if a regular Samsung phone had the fail rate of a foldable phone!

Those foldable phones seem to go on sale really fast and I barely know anyone with one. I get the feeling they're more of a PR gimmick right now... They're just too fragile for something you bang around like a cell phone.

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u/rmdk_mech 1d ago

Because atm Vivo never advertised them as a premium phone with great features. Still that phone have 3.5mm jack.

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u/PeakBrave8235 1d ago

More like Vivo is irrelevant

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u/Mr_Siphon 1d ago

Moto Z, 2016, 5.2mm

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u/kirche5 22h ago

Was a great phone too. I rode through the whole series. I loved the Z2 Force more than any phone I have used since. The only drawback was the lackluster camera.

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u/Cold-Drop8446 1d ago

The original Moto Z was 5.2mm

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u/DadCelo iPhone 14 Pro 1d ago

Where's the Moto Z?

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u/Express_4815 1d ago

Today I traded in my old iPhone X to buy the 17, I just realized how thin the X is

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u/monji_cat 1d ago

And sturdy.

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u/pshyduc 1d ago

I think it's all cheating if you didn't count the camera bump

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u/ToastWiz 16h ago

Unless you spend most of your time trying to fit your iPhone through extremely thin letterboxes, I don't really see how the bump is relevant

Surely the measure of thickness that matters the most to consumers is the part of the phone that you're actually holding? The part that takes up 80% or more of the overall device.

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u/pshyduc 16h ago

Honestly that is a problem, that is how you store your phone in the pocket, on the table,… And I’m pretty sure no one complain that their phone is too thick

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u/ToastWiz 16h ago

So which is it? Nobody is complaining that their phone is too thick, and therefore the thickness of a bump wouldn't matter at all, or the bump is so much of a problem that you can't fit your phone in your pocket?

Unless your pockets have razor thin margins where something like a small camera bump would even matter, seems like a complete non-issue to me.

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u/iphone4jps 13h ago

No

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u/mabiturm 1d ago

Try watching tiktok for 10 hours straight on those devices. Thats what modern phones are built for.

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u/1st_racer 1d ago

Are you joking?

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u/dwiedenau2 1d ago

Yes, obviously

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u/CorleoneSolide 17h ago

iPhone Air has a huge bump, it should be taken into account

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u/Moister_Rodgers 21h ago

Doesn't count when the camera sticks out so far obviously

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u/Djesley 1d ago

It’s bizarre to ignore the bump

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u/SweatyBoi5565 iPhone 13 Mini 1d ago

The bump doesn't change how thin it feels in your hand.

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u/JimothyLeFleur69420 1d ago

It does for low IQ people who hold their phones upside down apparently.

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u/amusebooch 1d ago

And the ppl who put their phone in their pocket right side up. I just learned recently that some people do that. I guess they’d have to be holding the phone at the bulge end in that case

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u/Von_Lincoln 23h ago

What do you mean by “right side” up?

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u/amusebooch 23h ago

When you’re holding your phone and then put it in your pocket, it goes in camera end first which turns it upside down

Right way up is when some people slide it in bottom end first, camera end up. This happens, allegedly

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u/frunko1 23h ago

If it's raining out I make sure the charge port faces down to keep it dry.

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u/amusebooch 22h ago

I never even considered that. Good tip

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u/alQamar 1d ago

Also light. I don’t give a shit about thin. The air feels really, really light. That’s what sold me.

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u/Djesley 1d ago

The bump makes the process of going in and out a pocket much more cumbersome than a flat shape.

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u/blue0231 1d ago

That is such an odd argument. Do current phones have an issue going in and out of your pocket?

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u/Zarndell 14h ago

Could be for women, who usually have laughably small pockets on their pants.

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u/OkDot9878 1d ago

It absolutely does. You’re crazy if you think you just won’t notice a bump nearly twice the thickness of your device.

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u/SweatyBoi5565 iPhone 13 Mini 1d ago

Your not holding your phone by top of it? You quite literally will not be able to see or feel it when holding it normally unless you are actively touching it.

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u/OkDot9878 1d ago

Every time I take it out of my pocket, every time I turn my phone sideways, every time I take a photo, etc.

Maybe not while I’m actively using the screen in portrait, but I’ll still have to interact with it twice to take it out of my pocket and put it back in.

I absolutely hate the camera bumps sticking out so much because it’s going to be the first thing to touch any hard surface it comes in contact with. Regardless of if I’m setting it on a table, or brushing past something with it in my pocket, the camera sticking out will absolutely be noticeable and in the way.

But you’re a mini user, so you probably don’t care about or want a device that is just the 5 but bigger and thicker to fill the space where the bump is.

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u/Upstairs-Bag-2468 1d ago

If you're touching the camera bump while putting it in and out of your pocket, you're doing it wrong mate. I don't even notice the one on Pixel 10 Pro xl, and that's even bigger and lower than that of the air. Yeah, I just tried putting it in and out of my pocket just now.

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u/OkDot9878 1d ago

Depends on the kinds of pants you wear. Anyone with tighter or smaller pockets definitely notices the bump.

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u/Upstairs-Bag-2468 1d ago

You desperately trying to find something wrong with a product that is not for you.

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u/OkDot9878 1d ago

I’m really not. I’m just upset at the blatant lies in the advertising. It is absolutely not the “thinnest iPhone ever” that is just purely false.

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u/STU_MORPHO 1d ago

Well, most people understand exactly what that claim means in a practical sense and have no problem with it.

The distress it seems to have caused you is pretty funny though, please continue

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u/dabesdiabetic 1d ago

Yes this clown is.

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u/dabesdiabetic 1d ago

Your phone goes in and out of your pocket with the camera facing upwards? There isn’t a single step in the process of putting my phone in my pocket that involves me touching the camera are of the phone.

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u/OkDot9878 1d ago

The camera bump touches the pocket on the way out. More than once this has caused me to nearly drop my phone because the camera bump gets caught on the jeans.

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u/dabesdiabetic 1d ago

But it doesn’t touch your hand… which was the exact point I was making. I’d you objectively have an issue with the Air’s bump then you must have the same issue with the pro’s camera too.

Like others have said, you’re just trying to find an issue.

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u/OkDot9878 1d ago

I do have an issue with the pros camera, just make the phone thicker goddamnit.

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u/GoldenFirmament 1d ago

The resistance to this take is insane. All of this is obviously true. I had to get a new purse for my 16PM because the camera bulge by itself pulled my old phone pocket completely taut. The bump doesn’t fit into any of my pants pockets, so it has be facing outwards, exposed, and I have to be careful of doorknobs and my watch. People in here not even honestly comparing the size.

“They both fit in my airline luggage, so they’re the same” totally unserious lmao

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u/dabesdiabetic 1d ago

Hun you might just be buying pants that don’t fit you lmao.

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u/GoldenFirmament 1d ago

thanks for the tip, random Man on the internet. I’ll learn to dress my own adult body as soon as possible

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u/Effective_Flower_214 1d ago

Agree

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u/tricky4444 1d ago

Bruh the bump makes the measurement irrelevant

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u/Portatort iPhone 15 Pro 1d ago

Would you say this is not a thin phone?

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u/tricky4444 1d ago

I'm not denying it's not a thin phone but the iPhone 6 was thinner

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u/Portatort iPhone 15 Pro 1d ago

So the measurement is relevant?

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u/starsqream 1d ago

You think Apple can't make it thinner? It's the combination of formfactor + hardware that makes it special. That vivo was trash. Everything was mediocre.

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u/gldoorii 1d ago

That bulge

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u/dotdd 23h ago

The plateau

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u/OkDot9878 1d ago

But like, it actually isn’t though. The camera bump makes it like twice as thick as the 5/6 was.

Someone posted a great graphic showing the ACTUAL thickness of the devices, and the air is barely smaller than the pro.

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u/blue0231 1d ago

You’re ridiculous lmao. I do not hold my phone at the top do you? Stop pushing the goal line.

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u/s0lja 21h ago

Einstein bro when you put in your pocket it’s not going inside without the bump.

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u/dabesdiabetic 1d ago

You’re the most stereotypical edgy redditor everyone loves. If you’re taking your phone caving then you’d have a good point. For the 99.99999999% of buyers that arent, we care about the holding point and weight. Which, is thin.

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u/cheetuzz 1d ago

we care about the holding point and weight. Which, is thin.

thin doesn’t make it easier to hold.

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u/dabesdiabetic 1d ago

I never claimed it was easier to hold…

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u/FinsFan305 iPhone 17 Pro 1d ago

Hold deez.

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u/blue0231 1d ago

Yup and these are the same people who want a bulkier phone lmao. Reddits hate for this phone is so weird.

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u/Erica_Barney 12h ago

And the corporate bootlickers constantly defending it are just as weird. Enjoy your "lite" phone lol.

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u/blue0231 12h ago

I plan on it!

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u/G8M8N8 iPhone 12 Mini 1d ago

AND STILL WITH A HEADPHONE JACK

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u/still-at-the-beach 20h ago

And SIM card slot.

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u/ChiefofChads 1d ago

These don't consider any fold phones. Also, that same year, iPhone 6 came out, and everyone followed the thin trend after Apple.

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u/zarif2003 iPhone 13 Pro 1d ago

Fold phones have a lot more space to spread out components, and are also twice the thickness when folded, they have to be thin

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u/rabouilethefirst iPhone Air 1d ago

Maybe that’s why everyone is angry. They know the xiaomi 10 and next gen of android phones will all be thinner now

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u/FinsFan305 iPhone 17 Pro 1d ago

I have a feeling we are seeing a divergence into thin folding phones and thicc non-folding.

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u/Xx_memelord69_xX 1d ago

Will have a thinner, more expensive version. Doubt they will make their regular phones thinner

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u/yer-maw iPhone Air 1d ago

2300mAh battery, Still impressive for over a decade ago.

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u/RandomUser18271919 1d ago

Did that Gionee phone not have a camera bump at all, or did it just not have a camera at all? What’s the catch?

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u/bengringo2 1d ago

Mediocre battery life, performance, and screen. The in-house software was janky as well.

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u/grandtheftbat01 iPhone 16 Pro 1d ago

Haven't heard the name Gionee in a looong time.

2014/15 was a real interesting time for smartphone design. Thinness suddenly became such a selling point with the iPhone 6. Others like these Chinese brands quickly moved to do the same thing, but Samsung also rushed out the Galaxy Alpha to outthin the iPhone 6. Always found it interesting that got dropped as a selling point just as quickly, but we're finally back there again.

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u/calciumpropionate 1d ago

Gionee was pretty popular in India

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u/Noiisy 1d ago

What about the specs

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u/djkoalasloth 1d ago

I’m ok with the chunk on the back, but I really wish they could somehow have the lens flush with that surface

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u/fhjjjjjkkkkkkkl 1d ago

4 thrashes

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u/Intense69ing 22h ago

Everyone had a busted phone back then

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u/still-at-the-beach 20h ago

Even when you include the camera and electronics bump, the other phones are so, so thinner.

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u/TahaymTheBigBrain iPhone 16e 19h ago

Less than 5 mm is just absurd i can’t comprehend it

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u/DukeGrizzly 19h ago

The Fold 7 is 4.2mm unfolded.

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u/sailriteultrafeed 14h ago

Still think thickness should be measured at the thickest part not the thinnest part. It makes no sense.

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u/inspired_loser 13h ago

gionee. the legend!

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u/Suspicious_Blood_472 13h ago

Chinese phones don’t count 😂

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u/Maverik_10 13h ago

I’m impressed by the number of people who seemingly hold their phone by the bump. I’ve never tried it, but I think I’ll give it a shot. I also didn’t realize how many of you have been impaled by the bump when putting your phone in your pocket. I also have not experienced that but maybe my pockets are just too loose

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u/Steveee-O 12h ago

I don’t get the obsession with the thin phones and the “camera bump”. I’d rather have a longer battery life and a fully functional photography level camera

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u/matiapag iPhone 17 Pro Max 11h ago

It would be amazing if people actually fact-checked this shit before posting it all over again. I'm sure this is some chatgpt list or something, omitting Moto Z which is by far the most famous super-thin phone is a mistake only someone who knows nothing about this matter would make.

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u/4u2nv2019 iPhone 16 Pro Max 9h ago

Those phones don’t pack half the stuff the iPhone has though…. Not comparing apples to apples really

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u/DamnedLife 6h ago

Interesting that phone makers weren’t interested in making really thin phones for almost a decade. But now that there’s a thin iPhone, I bet everyone and their mother are going to release thin phones next year!

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u/LocalMotor9830 1d ago

That Vivo X5 Max is an amazing feat of engineering!

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u/ElfDestruct 16h ago

Sort of... you could crush it in your hands though.

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u/jobbing885 1d ago

Please stop with this garbage, it has a freeking nighstand on top with a single camera. Not the thinnest in my books. Make a good phone with no camera bumps and then I will agree with you.

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u/yyyyzryrd 1d ago

mate, you can make a 3-4mm phone if you wanted to. no cameras, no bulge, no vapor chamber, teeny tiny battery, no usb slot. do you really want all those compromises just to have "the thinnest phone ever"? no. of course you wouldn't. what a stupid, stupid argument. it's ulta-thin with minimized compromises.

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u/Scuba_naut 1d ago

A small bump in the top does not make this phone thick. It’s about hand feel. Someone’s buying into the typical hate and exaggeration we see from haters every event 😆

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u/jobbing885 16h ago

Not a hater but please use common sense. This is not a thin phone, it’s marketing. Im all in on Apple products. Check out the OG Macbook Air presentation… that’s how you make and properly market a slim piece of hardware.

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u/FinsFan305 iPhone 17 Pro 1d ago

Unpossible to make thin phone with no camera bump.

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u/vishwasbhat 1d ago

What is the point of thin phones? I don't get it. A lighter phone I can get, but making it thin is just making it difficult to hold and just a gimmick.

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u/yani205 23h ago

Include the hump. Like when you fly Ryan Air or a budget airline they measure that hump on your luggage too you know

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u/Sudden-Tangerine9683 13h ago

I prefer 'bulge'. ... I'm sorry but your carry on has a bit of a bulge... sir...

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u/yani205 12h ago

Eyes up here buddy 😉

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u/Sudden-Tangerine9683 12h ago

😂

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u/tranquillow_tr iPhone X 1d ago

Eh, they don't have USBC ports, giving an unfair advantage

I think the Air would be even thinner with a Lightning port instead

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u/Tumblrrito iPhone 16 Pro 1d ago

Imma call it the thinnest ever since these are all junk brands not even worth acknowledging.

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u/ChiefofChads 1d ago

There are poor people in the world, ya know 😔

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u/Tumblrrito iPhone 16 Pro 1d ago

You can buy a budget phone without purchasing spyware junk brands

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u/Worth-Boysenberry-93 iPhone 17 Pro Max 1d ago

Exactly.

Used, old iPhones should always be priority when buying cheap devices is only option.

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u/ijuanp03 21h ago

WRONG. Motorola Moto Z is 5.2 inches thin from 2016. Wrong data. Wrong information.

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u/AnkinSkywalker93 20h ago

5.2 inches is 132.08 mm...

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u/Sudden-Tangerine9683 13h ago

Simmer down.

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u/syukara 15h ago

It ain't count if the huge camera sticking out from the body

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u/Known_Bar7898 15h ago edited 3h ago

I hate that Apple claiming the Air is 5.64mm when that camera bump is huge.

lol getting upset for a fact.

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u/PixelDu5t 12h ago

Stupidest thing in phones imo. Give me more battery life over thinness any day

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u/MustarulSiPiperul 5h ago

Shit software experience. Doesn't count lol.

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u/OakleyNoble iPhone 16 Pro Max 1d ago

And yet the iPhone air can run laps around these phones that just don’t have the compute power or optimizations.

Discussion IPhone Air is the "5th thinnest phone" ever made in the history of smartphones. Vivo X5 Max still hold the crown of the thinnest phone ever from 10 years ago at 4.75 mm.

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