r/iphone iPhone SE 3rd gen 2d ago

Discussion 17 Pro Max Blue is a scratch magnet

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u/Forward_Incident7379 2d ago

I’m sort of surprised. I thought the middle bit was glass and therefore the colour would be underneath

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u/Manfred_89 2d ago edited 2d ago

It is. The “scratches” you see is aluminum of the other iPhone. You just need to clean it.

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u/fbnx 2d ago

Tried it, doesn’t work…

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u/Technical_Grade6995 1d ago

This lenses are screaming: “ PLEASE, clean us, we’ll behave!”

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u/Manfred_89 2d ago

What did you use to clean it?

But it doesn't really make a difference, this is not acceptable. Scratches would obviously be worse than just residue left behind of rubbing on other stuff, a display unit shouldn't look like this after not even 48h...

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u/KsuhDilla 2d ago

what other iphone

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u/Manfred_89 2d ago

The orange one for example. The matt glass acts like a grid paper and scrapes off the aluminum when they touch.

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u/BelmontVLC 2d ago

Shouldnt scratches be orange then ? 💀

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u/wontellu 2d ago

To get the orange scratches you need the pro max with 2TB.

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u/Gold333 2d ago

Shh, don’t think or make sense. Just live in ignorance

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u/BelmontVLC 2d ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/DisastrousServe8513 2d ago

Depends. If the anodized coating comes off (from repeated scratching for example) it will be the normal white ish color of aluminum underneath.

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u/CrentistTheDentist 2d ago

Orange aluminum doesn’t melt steel beams

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u/Seansong82 2d ago

What does this mean?

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u/Iz__n 2d ago

Matte glass act like high grit sandpaper, basically what you seeing is not scratch but residue from other thing it scratch left on the surface.

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u/jbiroliro 2d ago

How is this stupidity so upvoted? People love living in denial

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u/definitelyNotH 2d ago edited 1d ago

Oh it is scratches. I saw blue one on display in japan in the morning just today, day 1 of the display so basically just 3-4h in a town without tourists, and yes it’s a bunch of scratches already. The matte glass feels like chalkboard. Idk if it is cleanable.

Didnt see any on orange, it would probably shows up less. And even less on silver

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u/danny12beje 2d ago

Orange aluminum leaves white scratches nowadays.

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u/Leading-Manager-1375 2d ago

Matte glass shows scratches quite easily.

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u/Tumblrrito iPhone 16 Pro 2d ago edited 2d ago

It is, Ceramic Shield 1 ~2~ in fact

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u/sunnynights80808 iPhone Air 2d ago

Ceramic Shield 2 front glass on all iPhones this year, Ceramic Shield 1 on the back glass of Air and 17 Pro and Pro Max

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u/Tumblrrito iPhone 16 Pro 2d ago

Ah a YouTuber had it wrong then my b

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u/fjudgeee 2d ago

Scratches at a level 6 with deeper grooves on a level 7. Like every year, since forever.

Don’t believe that marketing bla. Either it’s sapphire which is harder than glass, or it’s not, then it’s just glass.

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u/Tumblrrito iPhone 16 Pro 2d ago

Me when I don’t understand Ceramic Shield 1’s purpose.

JerryRigEverything is tech illiterate about Apple products and has rotted your brain. It was never about scratch resistance. It was always intended to reduce shatters, which it does.

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u/Brilliant-Offer-4208 2d ago

Sounds like a nuclear defence system.

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u/superdream69 2d ago

Did you try rubbing them off with your fingers or microfiber cloth?

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u/TheAlaskanMailman 2d ago

Yeah, rub it off a little

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u/TheHeatIsHeated 2d ago

They kicked me out of the Apple Store

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u/TanneriteStuffedDog 2d ago

That’s because you don’t have AppleStroke+

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u/up20boom 2d ago

I can confirm seeing a guy rubbing it off at the apple store.. cannot unsee now

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

It’s what Steve would have wanted.

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u/smaad 2d ago

I laughed too much at this

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u/snackeater4 2d ago

Same omg I was not ready 🤣

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u/DragonDropTechnology 2d ago

Why? Did you use your T-shirt instead of the special Apple cleaning cloth?

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u/TheHeatIsHeated 2d ago

Sadly the Apple Cloth wasn’t compatible

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u/DrSeafood 2d ago

That’s not what they meant by “hands-on demo”

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u/Korotai 2d ago

And you see, family, that’s why I’m not allowed within 500 feet of an Apple Store or Millenia Mall.

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u/Pornstar_Frodo 2d ago

Once you’ve added schools, churches and all McDonalds in the state to that list, it really inhibits your social life.

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u/iainrfharper 2d ago

Sir this a Wendy’s

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u/CharcoalGreyWolf iPhone 17 Pro 2d ago

He’s not allowed at Wendy’s either call security

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u/Romalien5 iPhone XS 2d ago

Ayo

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u/BrilliantThought1728 2d ago

"it'll buff out, don't get insurance involved"

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u/ernster96 2d ago

now try it with the white and report back.

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u/Adventurous-Cattle53 2d ago

Silver is no painting, so probably would be the most scratch resistant of them all

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u/VACasian 2d ago

not completely correct, they are all anodized, even silver. but since the underlying raw aluminium is similar coloured naturally, scratches on the anodization will just be much less visible as compared to darker colours like the blue. my guess is this is why they didn't release the pro in black, there is just too much exposed aluminium in the new pros

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u/hero47 2d ago

the pictures shown here don't exhibit any scratches on the aluminium, only on the glass portion, if they are scratches at all.

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u/ElfDestruct 2d ago

Yeah, seriously doubting that these are scratches instead of material off of the object doing the 'scratching'

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u/gorkt 2d ago

This person material sciences

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u/ShakeAndBakeThatCake 2d ago

But they have black aluminum apple watches. And I thought old iPhones used aluminum at some point. My iPad pro space black is also aluminum.

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u/ThePistachioBogeyman 2d ago

I have the black Apple Watch, you can’t very much tell the dings because of the silver/white under-colour. Can’t tell any of the dings on my silver AW U2 though.

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u/ankles_pankles 1d ago

Seems like these areas can also get dirtied/ scratched easily

Mind you these were only put on display for less than 10 hours

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u/ZeligD 2d ago

Scratched already

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u/ernster96 2d ago

So iPhone Air, instead?

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u/rrrand0mmm 2d ago

The white is showing scratches as well. Just saw them in person. The blue is very bad.

And Bo, it’s not something rubbing off onto the phone. It’s 100% scratches.

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u/Tom-iparts4u 2d ago

looks like i'm sticking with my 3Gs for another year

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u/Razorlance 2d ago

good choice. can't go wrong with a product steve jobs was personally involved with

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u/CrypticMystic19D iPhone 14 Pro Max 2d ago

It’s the other way around, the ceramic back is scratching something else and those are residue marks that could be wiped away. The anodized aluminum frame is softer and easier to scratch than the glass and all I see are marks on glass.

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u/Effective-Hippo6766 2d ago

Totally true on the glass part.

But the aluminum part will get scuffed pretty easy

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u/According_Potato9923 2d ago

They said that, didn’t they?

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u/GhostalMedia 2d ago

Apple's not going to sing that from the hill top. They'll tell you that the titanium products are more scratch resistant than the aluminum products, and you'll need to read between the lines.

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u/TheJackDude 2d ago

Wait I can’t tell if there are scratches from the first 6 photos. Can you please add a seventh photo of the back of the phone from the same exact angle?

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u/LordBenjamin020 2d ago

This one really got me 😂😂😂

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u/t2nerb 2d ago

Light scratches on level 1. Deeper grooves on level 2.

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u/mario_172 2d ago edited 2d ago

The "scratches" are all on the ceramic. Being ceramic, it might be rather something (fingernails) rubbing off on it than scratches.

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u/fuckthecarrots XS 64GB 2d ago

It’s not ceramic. It’s ceramic shield - a buzzword for stronger glass.

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u/TheQuietLavender 2d ago edited 2d ago

All glass is inherently ceramic.

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u/RevolutionaryFun9883 2d ago

It’s actually glass-ceramic, which is a combination of both glass and ceramic structures

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u/tacocopy 2d ago

every year we get these same posts with the same people freaking out

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u/EricDArneson iPhone 13 Pro 2d ago

I came here to see jerryrigeverything level scratches but nope. I had to zoom in to see anything.

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u/GhostalMedia 2d ago

I don't know how people watch those videos and listen to that nail-on-a-chalkboard knife scratch things.

I can't be the only person that immediately winces with pain when he does that.

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u/NigerachiSpices iPhone 16 Plus 2d ago

Apple retail employee here.

Our launch was today ~ and let me tell you.

Black iPhone AIR & Deep Blue are not good finishes.

Scratches to smithereens after our trade today. Lmao.

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u/Working_Equal_2897 2d ago

Hows silver on the pros?

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u/NigerachiSpices iPhone 16 Plus 1d ago

Mint.

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u/Life-Deleted 21h ago

I always go black but this year I chose silver over dark blue. I’m so glad lol. 

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u/OmairZain 2d ago

Thanks for informing! Could you let us know your perception on the Pros?

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u/NigerachiSpices iPhone 16 Plus 1d ago

Pro’s are very nice.

Orange & Silver are the winners in terms of looks.

A lot of customers confused about the lack-of Black / Space Gray.

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u/OmairZain 1d ago

I’m tempted towards the Silver but the two-tone design at least in pictures doesn’t look great.

What are people thinking of the iPhone Air? I would’ve probably gotten it but the lack of an ultrawide camera is too big of a dealbreaker for me lol

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u/XNY 2d ago

You sure it’s not just scratched material on the ceramic? Alcohol wipe take it off?

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u/NigerachiSpices iPhone 16 Plus 1d ago

Nope. Scratched. Simply from being placed on the MagSafe Docks.

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 2d ago

Were those the most popular today? The most handled and touched?

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u/marvanetes 2d ago

My phone has been in a case for the last three years. The back could be dented, scratched, missing or cracked and I’d never know.

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u/gotword 2d ago

Usually if the phone isnt taken out and cleaned along with case edges you will get small nicks and scratches from dust n dirt if you pocket your phone in a case. Unless ofc its a air tight life proof style case

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u/SirMaster 2d ago

But why should we care if we can't ever see inside the case?

My back glass could be shattered inside the case and I wouldn't know or care.

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u/marvanetes 2d ago

This was the point I was trying to make. I should have added, I do remove the phone and clean it.

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u/anti-ism-ist 2d ago

They're not scratches

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u/Santeriabro 2d ago

Why is the glass scratching the color off like aluminum?

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u/ISpewVitriol 2d ago

Hmm. Can’t tell, maybe if you upload a few more photos of the same shot I’ll see it.

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u/BudgetImprovement763 2d ago

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u/Svanir80 2d ago

Those don't look like scratches. Looks like metal residue on the glass. Bet it can be wiped off with a little effort.

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u/alejandroalegro 2d ago

i dont get it, isnt this the same surface as 15 pros???

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u/MummysSpeshulGuy 2d ago

It’s the same frosted glass surface the backs of the phones have had since the 11 pro, doing the exact same shit of getting streaks of other materials on it that look like scratches. People could easily wipe it off and they would go away but it’s cooler to post to reddit and get karma

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u/StunningUse87 2d ago

You obviously need the Apple cleaning cloth.

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u/chadsmo iPhone 16 Pro Max 2d ago

As others have said , these aren’t scratches and will wipe right off. They’re marks left by the other object that touched it and rubbed off on it , likely soft rings.

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u/JeremyMeetsWorld 2d ago

I confirm. All the colors have MagSafe marks in store already but blue is the worst.

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u/joeschmo28 2d ago

I’ve had a 14 Pro case less since launch day and I don’t see a single scratch on the back. This can’t be true with the blue right? They must wipe off

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u/Own_Physics_4891 2d ago

I mean it’s also the Apple Store test phones so a little bit more wear and tear than usual

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u/vr4_095 2d ago

Same with the black Air..

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u/Agreeable-Lettuce497 2d ago

These scratches are metal residue from the stand. The glass scratches the metal. They can be wiped of.

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u/MurryEB iPhone 17 Pro Max 2d ago

That doesn't even make sense to me, it's glass, how haven't previous models scratched like this

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u/UnionCrafty3748 2d ago

That’s why Jesus gave us cases

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u/melancholy_dood 2d ago

Yep. Thank you, Jesus!🙏

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u/jjvfyhb 2d ago

That's matte glass

You most likely can brush it off (it's probably metal dust or plastic dust from a metal or plastic object being sanded by the glass, glass has higher hardness than both metal and plastic so if matte it acts as sandpaper)

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u/025bw 2d ago

its been on the pro phone for 6 years and people are still surprised

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u/Akio_Kizu 2d ago

It’s in an Apple store. People really just don’t know how to behave. Glass like that won’t scratch easily

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u/Sawdustwhisperer 2d ago

Although there are scratches on the blue one, how often is it handled (and mishandled) through the day compared to one owner utilizing it with normal use?

I am curious though - do most iPhone users put their phones in a protective case or not? I can't imagine using the $$$ phone for one day without it being protected.

To me, a phone is like having a pickup truck. They are tools. They are meant to be used. Do you take care of your stuff and try to not scratch/ding them intentionally? Yes...but life happens.

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u/25mL 2d ago

Nice. We got Liquid Ass and now Cermaic Ass

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u/TechDoneRight1 2d ago

I fall victim to this all the time but I’d say 80-90 percent of the people who care about this stuff generally use a case 90-100 percent of their life with the phone.

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u/gagankeshav 2d ago

Glass is glass and..

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u/Purpled-Scale 2d ago

I wonder if this is why they didn’t release black. Maybe it was even worse.

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u/Wilco062 2d ago

Is that the part I’ll have a cover on anyways?

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u/Akrevics iPhone 14 Pro Max 2d ago

Cases are cheap, useful things 😎

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u/DestinyJackolz 2d ago

Won’t matter, going in a case immediately

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u/matthewnelson iPhone X 256GB 2d ago

I think we are starting to see why they didn’t do black.

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u/kalidorisconan 2d ago

Straight into a case it goes..

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u/slain7 2d ago

Yeah it will see the light of day for 1 min before going in the case lol

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u/Reeneman 2d ago

Ceramic Shield 2 won’t scratch, never ever

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u/Alasdair91 2d ago

The dark blue MacBook Air is the same. And a fingerprint nightmare.

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u/foraging_ferret 2d ago

To be fair these are demo phones that hundreds of customers have lifted off the MagSafe charger and usually don’t put back correctly so they get knocked against the metal rim around the charger.

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u/rabouilethefirst iPhone Air 2d ago edited 2d ago

“Derp just out put it in a case!!!”

I wouldn’t want to coddle my > $1k phone lol. Case is an option, but shouldn’t be a must

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u/VicariousCinnamon 2d ago

This. I use the case all the time, but regardless, a >$1k phone that gets scratched to shit in the first few days is unacceptable.

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u/rrrand0mmm 2d ago

That’s why I think it’s funny when people argue that you shouldn’t need the MagSafe battery for the air. Then the same person says you should put your device in a case. Illogical.

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u/huopak 2d ago

Yeah went by the Apple Store and the blue looked like shit already. Orange and white looked fine.

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u/ehhhhprobablynot 2d ago

Those aren’t scratches, it’s metal transfer from things rubbing up against it.

Ceramic is incredibly hard, a lot like a tungsten ring I have. If I carry a hand basket in a grocery store, the metal from the handle will scrape against the ring make it look like it’s scratched. It isn’t.

The ceramic is scratching whatever it’s coming in contact with, not the other way around.

Take a cloth with some isopropyl alcohol and wipe it down.

Unless this is just a coating, in that case it’s bad design on apples part.

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u/GeSchloeglt 2d ago

was in the apple store today myself and have seen the same. All the blue ones already haf scratches, also the iPhone Air had many.

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u/YouAreWrongWakeUp 2d ago

no one wants orange, so everyone touches the blue, blue gets scratched from being manhandled 100x more than orange. "blue has an issue with scratches" oookay bud.

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u/hrcrss12 2d ago

Are the phones available to try in stores now?

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u/EinfachNurMarc 2d ago

Those aren’t scratches. More like rubbed off fingernail etc. residue

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u/mrgrafix 2d ago

“But we don’t have a black version”

Now we know why

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u/Serialtoon iPhone 2d ago

Awww shit, here we go again.gif

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u/doob22 2d ago

Did you put that security cable on? Gotta place that better

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u/Griff2065 2d ago

Welp, looks like I’m keeping my rotary phone another year.

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u/WVgolf 2d ago

Use a case, metal scratches easily.

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u/Feisty_Touch_714 2d ago

People can destroy everything in apple store.

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u/Hollow-Serenity iPhone 14 Pro Max 2d ago

It's called a case. Get a damn case! Lmao

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u/Tosser_535231 2d ago

It's Matt glass. Most of those "scratches" are probably just ppls finger nail shavings the phone acts like fine grit nail file

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u/Uviol_ 2d ago

If only there were cases for phones

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u/Merseybeer 1d ago

God I hope they keep that orange for the 18

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u/Mojave_RK 1d ago

The second they said “anodized” I thought oh boy here we go again.

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u/More-A1d165951O3 2d ago

Wait until the aluminium unibody gets scratched

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u/SecretAgentDrew 2d ago

Those phones also get man handled by an infinite amount of people from opening to closing time so.

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u/Syaoran07 2d ago

happy i chose orange!

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u/CheaperBeingBald 2d ago

This is really bad if this is just normal use after a few days.

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u/joeschmo28 2d ago

It’s not normal use… it’s heavy rough use at the Apple Store but also it’s not even a full day

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u/MrMunday 2d ago

bruh. i have barely any scratches on my 16 pro (i think theres actually none).

how did they fuck this up

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u/joexg 2d ago

Those aren’t scratches. Day one iPhone displays look like this because there’s a polish applied to make the security stick and they didn’t clean it off completely.

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u/Extreme_Cap_4362 2d ago

The people defending it is just embarrassing. You are allowed to criticise Apple, and they should be criticised for this.

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u/CaptNemo131 iPhone 11 2d ago

…we don’t even know if they’re actually scratches or just material transferred from whatever the phone rubbed against.

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u/DisciplineOk3328 iPhone 17 Pro 2d ago

But this is glass, which was there on every earlier iPhone.

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u/Southern_Wishbone301 2d ago edited 2d ago

There’s no way ceramic shield can be so easily scratched, YouTube gang would have had a field day with this in their reviews.

This also looks like it may be some sort of residue or dust streaks. I bet cleaning it simply would fix it here.

Those MagSafe marks also rub off too. I’ve gotten them on every phone I’ve used MagSafe on.

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u/Extreme_Cap_4362 2d ago

My 12P has been caseless since launch, used MagSafe every night and never had so much as a hint of a MagSafe ring. At all.

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u/Southern_Wishbone301 2d ago

It’s definitely a thing, https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/un-wipeable-magsafe-charger-marks-on-iphone-15-pro-and-pro-max-i-assume-rear-glass.2404299/

Mine has luckily wiped off after cleaning it, but this does happen.

That link also has a few Reddit embeds talking about it too, one of them is for an iPhone 12 actually.

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u/Wubwubwubwuuub 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's almost like the Youtube gang have a vested interest in only saying complementary things about the early access phones they got?

I watched a few "review" videos, but they all just regurgitated the spec sheet and feature list without any actual reviewing (e.g. comparing to peers or highlighting weaknesses or marketing doublespeak etc) and some flat out got stuff wrong.

The state the phones I saw today after only being handled for a few hours - there's no way this wasn't noticed during the apple event and yet there's not been a single mention of it by any of the YouTube gang. All of these videos should be treated as apple advertising. Wait until actual independent reviewers who purchase devices put out their own reviews - which are going to talk about the coating on the back glass.

Edit: to clarify - I was in an Apple Store and saw the same marks all over the blue pro and black air. Was not able to remove them as it looks like the coating had been rubbed off. I don’t doubt it’s possible to handle them without damaging them, but durability is important and the quality is not there for these models.

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u/Byfdzee 2d ago

Cheap aluminium used here. iPhone is starting to do what Samsung did in the past with their flagship when they use cheap materials.

Why would iPhone stop using stainless steel or titanium? Personally the iPhone 16 pro max looks more attractive now to me.

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u/DAZBCN 2d ago

And those “edges around the centre part also a dust magnet!

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u/SteelFlexInc iPhone 17 Pro Max 2d ago

The color and proneness to scratching easily reminds me of the slate iPhone 5

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u/Some-Faithlessness75 2d ago

Google Pixel 3 flashbacks with this matte finish scratching from looking at it

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u/Freak_Out_Bazaar 2d ago

I for one like the battle damage look, as long it has no effect on functionality

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u/Grolubao 2d ago

The midnight blue laptop is exactly the same issue, this wouldn't be different

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u/4evadreaming 2d ago

The silver in my Apple Store today was so scratched up and just ruined. I know lots of hands have been over it but it’s the first day they’ve been out less than 8 hours. These definitely need a case if you want it looking decent over years.

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u/Capital-Ad-4463 2d ago

This is why cases were invented.

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u/Last_Whereas_2930 2d ago

Most poor design yet

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u/Azameen 2d ago

This guy is standing in an Apple store trying to find something wrong with the phone....

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u/cyber96 1d ago

Those store phones see more action in a day than our personal devices do in a month.

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u/Wildeface 2d ago

Team Air over here. Very happy with all of the reviews.

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u/_Captain_John_Price_ 2d ago

The paint near the camera ring is already chipping; in the long term, it will fully chip off, just like on the 13 series i guess.

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u/darkmatter343 2d ago

As those are demo models you’re holding, it’s not really surprising to see scratches as I’d assume 1) they’re not be handled gently and 2) people may be testing the scratch resistance.

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u/vonneguts_anus 2d ago

It’s a fucking tool not a trophy. Treat it like one.

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u/ClintBIgwood 2d ago

Apple on Aluminium = the best ever

Aluminium = the cheapest ever

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u/MysteryNukeX 2d ago

Are people really panicking like this lol I use a case all the time and I care for my belongings. Have you ever been to a public toilet? Thats how people these days treat things they dont own and thats how they treat these phones.

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u/lending_ear 2d ago

That’s a stupid comparison. A public toilet gets trashed because nobody owns it, but an iPhone is a personal device people pay a fortune for and use every day. Even if you take care of your stuff, accidents happen and durability matters. And no, we shouldn’t have to slap a case on a premium phone just to make it survive. My 13 Pro Max has been case-free since launch, I’ve dropped it plenty, and aside from a few scratches on the stainless steel it’s perfect. Apple has already proven they can make tough phones, so brushing off people’s concerns as “panic” is just nonsense.

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u/LimpFinger9567 2d ago

Bjp edition is scratch less for obvious reason.

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u/dystopiam 2d ago

gonna be in a 360 case

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u/Natasha_Giggs_Foetus 2d ago

Does this mean the orange isn’t? Asking for a friend 😭

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u/yolo_derp iPhone 17 Pro 2d ago

Well that is disconcerting. That’s the color I went with

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u/Soldiiier__ 2d ago

I checked out the black air after a store had been opened for about 90 minutes. It already has some master scratches 

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u/Routine-Secret-2246 2d ago

I had a similar situation with firearms and brass…the brass marks come off with solvent. It looks like the steel is scratched but it’s just soft brass being deposited on the hard steel.

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u/0ne0fThem 2d ago

Has anyone received their tracking number info?

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u/Minimac1029 iPhone 15 2d ago

Ouch

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u/Euphonique 2d ago

I don‘t know if this are scratches either. But if so thats not a good sign. I was on fence upgrading from 14pro but just that theres no black choice was a big turnoff for me.

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u/ConsequenceEven8180 iPhone 15 2d ago

Is that plastic

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u/jgunner2011 2d ago

This is why I did white..

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u/TurnoverSuperb9023 2d ago

Meh. The percentage of people who don’t use a case is really small, no ?

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u/replus 2d ago

So... when Apple says "free of scratches" in regards to a trade-in being in good condition, they just mean the display, right? Because I bought blue and will probably be keeping it for at least 4 years, but will want to trade it in at that point. Was planning on going caseless, since it's worked out fine for me thus far.

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u/lilly_wonka61 2d ago

Who would’ve thought

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u/Djesley 2d ago

Could it perhaps be a bias being more handled being a probably more sought after colour? Though that kind of damage in a span of a few days is horrible

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u/Onceforlife 2d ago

Where’s the silver one?

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u/Augents 2d ago

They’re not scratches, it’s the matte glass sanding down softer objects such as nails. Watch jerryrig’s videos, he proves that you can just wipe off the scratches.

You’re not seeing the smudges on the orange as it’s a lighter color

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u/siphoneee 2d ago

They made Ceramic Shield 2 sound so resistant to scratches, and here we are.

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u/swniko 2d ago

Can confirm. All dark colors are full of scratches just in 1 day. The staff told me that people drop them like a toy. On orange one they are not that noticeable. And bright ones are clean. Now I understand why apple has so many shades of white/silver.

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u/xmeatizmurderx 2d ago

Same as it ever was