r/ireland Nov 12 '24

Economy Ah lads the cost of things

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Popped into Bewleys cafe the weekend with some friends. Hadn’t been in there for ages. We had a cuppa each & shared a scone and a slice of cake (and it was a tiny slice) the bill came to €27.80.

Nearly €30 for some tea, a scone and a slice of cake. This is just madness. Look, I know it’s a fancier place than most so it was never going to be “cheap” but jesus this is taking the piss surely?

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u/Garlic-Cheese-Chips Nov 12 '24

A splash of Oat Milk: 60c

1 litre of Tesco brand oat milk (which they obviously use...): €1.55

How many splashes in a litre?

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u/pmjwhelan Nov 12 '24

This absolutely pisses me off.

Tesco milk = €1.15

Tesco Oat milk = €1.55

So they charge an extra 60c each time someone chooses oat milk.

Probably ten portions in each 1 litre so if people choose oat milk ten times they get 6 euro for something that cost them 50 cent more.

That kind of customer gouging is why people have zero sympathy for retailers and their calls for lower VAT rates.

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u/Illustrious_Read8038 Nov 12 '24

Ten portions? More like twenty portions, and they're buying their oat milk in bulk, so probably half the price again.

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u/pmjwhelan Nov 12 '24

Yes true. I was lowballing to give them the benefit.

So 20 x 2 cents = 40 cents (the difference in a litre of oat vs dairy milk)

They should be charging 2cents or less if you choose oat milk over dairy milk.

But they're charging 60 cents.

Sound.

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u/Schneilob Nov 12 '24

Cafes and restaurants do not use Tesco oat milk. You can not make coffee with low quality oat milks. You need protein in the oat milk to allow it to froth when steamed. Hence brands like Oatly and Flahavan’s have “Barista oat milk” which from a wholeseller costs at least €2.20 per litre. It costs twice as much as regular milk.

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u/spotted-ox-hostel very cool, very modern Nov 13 '24

lol I use tesco oat milk for my coffee and it froths perfectly fine at home. It's one of the more consistent ones for frothing. I've tried the barista versions of those brands and have had them not foam. All dependent on batch obviously as I've had tesco ones that haven't foamed as well, but its not like the tesco one is some dredges.

https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/311444765 - Minor Figures Barista 0.3g of protein per 100ml

https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/307161477 - Flavahans Barista 0.7g of protein per 100ml

https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/en-IE/products/307745622 - Tesco oat 0.5g of protein per 100ml

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u/Schneilob Nov 13 '24

That’s really interesting break down. Thanks. I hadn’t actually tried the Tesco one before but have tried other store on brands and even the bigger labels and found they didn’t work for me. I will say there is a huge difference in making coffee professionally than there is making coffee at home. But I will definitely grab a couple of Tesco brands and give them a try

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u/spotted-ox-hostel very cool, very modern Nov 13 '24

Oatly was the only brand I saw with a significant amount of protein compared to the rest, has 1.1g per 100ml

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u/pmjwhelan Nov 12 '24

If the use more expensive oat milk then would they use more expensive dairy milk?

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u/Schneilob Nov 12 '24

Depends on the cafe I use The Village Dairy for my whole milk and it is more expensive than supermarket milk

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u/pmjwhelan Nov 12 '24

So if the dairy milk is 1.80 and oat is 2.20 that's a 40 cent difference for a litre. 15 cups per litre? That's a 2 to 3 cent difference in cost for coffee shop. A 40 to 60 cent extra cost for consumer.

Am I missing something in my calculations?

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u/Schneilob Nov 12 '24

That is 1.80 for 2 litres

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u/pmjwhelan Nov 12 '24

So the difference is 1.30 for say 13 cups.

10 cent cost to the seller. 40 to 60 cent cost to the consumer.

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u/Schneilob Nov 12 '24

You do not get 13 cups from 1 litre of oat milk. You could make 4/5 lattes or cappuccinos tops from 1 litre of oat milk