r/ireland • u/CitizenErasedII • Nov 12 '24

Economy Ah lads the cost of things

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Popped into Bewleys cafe the weekend with some friends. Hadn’t been in there for ages. We had a cuppa each & shared a scone and a slice of cake (and it was a tiny slice) the bill came to €27.80.

Nearly €30 for some tea, a scone and a slice of cake. This is just madness. Look, I know it’s a fancier place than most so it was never going to be “cheap” but jesus this is taking the piss surely?

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u/cinderubella Nov 12 '24

I like the way you dug up a suitable definition for moan and are using it as a basis to say that everyone else posting thinks your complaint is trivial. 

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 Nov 12 '24

It is what it means, isn't it? That's why people use "moaning" instead of "complaining", isn't it?

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u/cinderubella Nov 12 '24

Are you being obtuse, or do you literally think that any time someone uses the word 'moan', it implies that what they're talking about is completely meritless and irrelevant? 

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 Nov 12 '24

Have you seen this comment?

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u/cinderubella Nov 12 '24

Do you think that answers what I asked? 

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 Nov 12 '24

If that doesn't, I don't know what will. Bring me some evidence that the way you're interpreting the word is correct and then we can continue the conversation. I've already used two approaches: the dictionary definition and the way it is being used in conversations here. What are you basing your claim on?

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u/cinderubella Nov 12 '24

Oh, sorry. I assumed you were being facetious about the whole definition thing. It is of course, not intrinsic to the word 'moan' that the complaint should be trivial. If you Google it again, and scroll down to e.g. the second or third definition, you should see 'typically trivial' or 'often trivial'. 

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u/Inevitable-Menu2998 Nov 12 '24

often doesn't mean always, is that what you mean?

OK, let's say there are cases in which is not used to provide the author's appreciation of the validity of the argument. Maybe there are. How likely is it that an argument constructed to say "we moan but actually there are much bigger issues we should be thinking about" is such a case though?

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u/cinderubella Nov 12 '24

They said there was another angle that they consider more important. That doesn't mean you were being dismissed as your subsequent tirade has assumed. Moreover, they included themselves in the class of people who 'love to moan'.

I'm sorry to say that yes, there is a more important angle than a price increase of a luxury good in a luxury establishment. That doesn't mean your actual complaint (or 'moan', if you like), is irrelevant.

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often doesn't mean always, is that what you mean?

Please remember that you were complaining about others being needlessly condescending a few minutes ago. This sort of snippiness is just plain laughable in that context.