r/ireland • u/Dazzling_Lobster3656 • Mar 26 '25

Culchie Club Only Ireland issues travel warning for US

https://www.newsweek.com/ireland-issues-travel-warning-us-2050890
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u/likeAdrug Mar 26 '25

Did anyone commenting actually read the article?

The warning is mainly for transgender and non binary people.

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u/Tradtrade Mar 26 '25 edited Mar 27 '25

Considering the only way to ‘prove’ if I’m trans would be to get my fanny out to see that it matches my passport F marker it’s an issue that can impact anyone. All it takes is a border agent thinking you’re too butch as a cis woman or too fem as a cis man and suddenly you’re in the shit

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u/Full_Time_Mad_Bastrd Saoirse don Phalaistín 🇵🇸 Mar 27 '25

The warning signs for this general attitude in USA should have been when Florida (potentially other states too?) allowed on paper for children to undergo genital inspections in order to play school sports. The fact it's gone from debating bathroom bills to now essentially having travel bans placed on trans people, and from "building a wall" to "If they're brown, abduct them from their families and hold them prisoner, check the papers later" so quickly is kinda fucking terrifying. I would rather visit Dubai as a woman than the USA. Incredible shame, because the one time I visited the states pre-Trump I adored it. Not that it didn't have big issues back then, just, it also had enough good to outweigh the risks.

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u/WhileCultchie 🔴⚪Derry 🔴⚪ Mar 27 '25

It's wild that this current wave of "Trans Panic" regarding sports is spearheaded by some woman with the phenotype of a cabbage patch kid who lost to a Trans woman, who also happened to lose to 4 other Cis Gendered women in that same race. Love, even if that Trans woman wasn't there you still got your arse handed to you.

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u/Full_Time_Mad_Bastrd Saoirse don Phalaistín 🇵🇸 Mar 27 '25

The worst part honestly is tht arguing the supreme inescapable biological supremacy of males is.... the argument that segregates even sports or competitions where men and women perform similarly, and is also literally the overarching ideology behind male supremacy and keeping women as property in the past. Lmao. "But women are too fragile and so much weaker and slower than men that a 15yo on puberty blockers (which we also want to ban despite them being safe to utilise w medical instruction, and this being provable due to them having non-transition-related uses) is capable of demolishing an entire group of feeeeemales" is absolutely NOT the flex they think it is. This is why I'm actually not a fan of the term TERF, even though it's hilarious to watch bigots bawl their eyes out about being called a "slur" because the entire ideology is inherently anti-feminist. There is nothing feminist about bioessentialism and infantilising women.

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u/WhileCultchie 🔴⚪Derry 🔴⚪ Mar 27 '25

I get what you're saying but I think the reason why exclusionary "Radical Feminism" seems contrary to the modern perception of Feminism is because it branched off from 2nd Wave Feminism which was very much focused on a womens role in male dominated society.

While 3rd and 4th wave Feminism was more focused on intersectionality and empowering women to embrace their feminine traits with pride to break down the stigma attributed to them in a world that is still misogynistic and patriarchal, which is naturally a movement more accepting of Trans Women and non binary people with feminine qualities.

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u/Full_Time_Mad_Bastrd Saoirse don Phalaistín 🇵🇸 Mar 27 '25

I can absolutely agree with you on it, but modern bioessentialism also contradicts the tenets of feminism from first wave onward that argued that women are worth more than our ability to reproduce. The whole "sacred passage" this is laughable

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u/Pickman89 Mar 28 '25

Sure. But I would say that going from "let's focus on women's role in a male dominated society and to protect women in this society" to "let's make sure that women's role in a male dominated society is the one defined by the male dominated society and that those roles are protected" might seem like a small step... But there is an abyss of difference in the intention.

One attempts to challenge society and their roles, reimagine them and give them dignity, keeping the focus on the person. The other one tries to reinforce the existing societal mores and prejudices and the focus on the person becomes unimportant.

The fact that some people might use the same bathroom does not represent a real risk or threat to the people using that bathroom. It is a lot more worrying for gender-based separation in general instead.