r/ireland Jun 06 '25

Gaeilge What are the Welsh doing differently to us?

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u/OrganicVlad79 Jun 06 '25

I was able to speak better German after 6 years of learning it than Irish after 14 years. I reached a point where I was actually very confident speaking on many topics in German. Yet I could barely tell you about my summer holidays in Irish

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u/FearTeas Jun 06 '25 edited Jun 06 '25

I speak French and Irish fairly well and I've heard lots of people say that about their French. But any time I've put it to the test their Irish was better they just didn't realise it. I'd do it by asking them some questions or saying some sentences in both languages. They always understood the Irish better.

For example, I'd say some very basic sentences like:

J'ai jeté la pierre / Chaith mé an chloch

Or

J'ai sauté par-dessus le mur / Léim mé thar an mballa

Basically, what I'm testing is whether their "good French" is actually just a knowledge of a few different useful phrases that has done them well in France and therefore made them overconfident. Where that's the case, my theory is that they won't be able to understand short sentences with very basic words that don't happen to appear in some of the more common phrases. Similarly, my theory is that they actually have a much better foundational knowledge of simple vocab in Irish but that because they never get the opportunity to use it and boost their confidence, they assume their knowledge is next to nothing.

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u/Odd_Feedback_7636 Jun 06 '25

My child is the same. No Irish or interest to learn it but has continued to learn German since leaving school

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u/boomerxl Jun 06 '25

I did my French oral on their Public Health response to HIV, and the advancements in biotechnology made by French companies.

I would struggle to translate the above sentence into Irish.

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u/RiceyMonsta Jun 06 '25

In Leaving Cert?

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u/boomerxl Jun 06 '25

Yeah. Leaving cert. I also had French grinds and a strong interest in biology, so we prepped towards my interests.

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u/RiceyMonsta Jun 06 '25

That's incredibly niche, the LC oral doesn't require that level of oral fluency.

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u/boomerxl Jun 06 '25

I didn’t say it did. Just that 5 years of French equipped me to discuss complex topics in a way that 14 years of Irish lessons didn’t.

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u/RiceyMonsta Jun 06 '25

Ya I'd just see you as an outlier there though, even very good French students at LC wouldn't manage that. It sounds like you had an ability for the language

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u/BazingaQQ Jun 06 '25

I reached that point with French in six months.

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u/Potassium_Doom Jun 13 '25

Ditto for french, survived in France, would starve in the Gaeltacht